Migrating Pre-Installed 8.1 From Hybrid HDD To SSD
Jan 19, 2014
I just bought the HP Envy 17t-j100 Quad Edition with the 1TB hybrid drive and the 240GB SSD Upgrade Kit that you can get on the Customize and Buy page. I wanted to put the OS onto the SSD because I haul my laptop all over the countryside for work and it takes a beating and the SSD withstands that kind of treatment better. After a huge fiasco of trying to get mounting brackets and connecting cable that should come with the kit but don't, I finally got the thing physically installed in my second drive bay.
I tried using Acronis True Image to clone it over, as that was the cloning software that came with the SSD but apparently that version was incompatible with 8.1. So I bought the newer version, but apparently Acronis won't work if the drives are that different in size. I finally had a repair shop guy migrate it over for me but he had to enable Legacy booting to do it and now I have this obnoxious message in the lower right part of my screen:
"Windows 8.1
SecureBoot isn't configured correctly
Build 9600"
That is a minor annoyance and if I have to live with it, so be it. But I also find myself having difficulty downloading drivers from HP because now that I have a new SSD instead of the original hybrid drive, my specs no longer conform to the specs of my model of laptop and HP can't figure out which drivers are the right ones for my machine. I know I should have had the guy at the shop keep it and finish the job properly but I need my computer for my work and can't be without it overnight. My old laptop died and I'm limping along with this one as best I can until I get it up to speed.
The guy from the shop told me that I would have to disable Legacy booting if I wanted to get rid of that message. He also told me that to do that I would need to create a bootable disk and then re-install 8.1 after disabling Legacy booting on the SSD. This is the point at which my limited expertise fails me.
I am having trouble creating the bootable USB drive because when I try to download the file and enter my product key it says, "This product key cannot be used to install a retail version of WIndows 8.1." I take that to mean that my pre-installed 8.1 product key is not the same as the type of key needed for the download. So I'm stuck there.
My main question is this: Will it work to just do a full re-install using the existing 8.1 that was migrated from the hybrid drive to my SSD or will I end up screwed because I can't find the right drivers once I remove the few drivers the shop guy installed for me because I'm on a different type of drive than HP recognizes?
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Feb 18, 2014
Trying to migrate my system from HD to new SSD. I have system image saved to an external HD via USB 2.0, and also to DVD's.
When I try to restore from the external HD, the recovery window gives me only the option to restore to C: (system), when I want to restore to the SSD.
Restoring from the DVD doesn't work either.
Is migrating possible without 3rd party software? If not, any method which will work with 8.1?
Win 8.1 64-bit
HP ENVY TouchSmart 17-j043cl Notebook PC
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2. You can defrag the SSD Hybrid because the SSD section is 'virtual' and will not be accessed by the Defragger??
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If you shut down a computer from the right-click-left-bottom-corner menu in desktop mode, then click Shutdown -> system performs full shutdown. If you click Shutdown in charms bar -> system performs hybrid shutdown. Now my PC is starting in 8s, laptop in 15s.
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I recently installed windows 8.1 and there is a problem with the windows Fast Start up (hybrid boot) feature as sometimes it works and windows starts very fast and sometimes it doesn't starts fast but just take sometime to start as if I started from a cold boot. I tried everything from inside the windows to solve this problem but nothing worked
I read in some threads that this fast boot technology works by saving the system into a hibernation file in the system drive when you shutdown the PC and at boot Hybrid boot well just use this hibernation file to start up faster by loading some system related files from it.
So I thinks that sometimes it loads the information from the hibernation file to load the system fast and sometimes it doesn't load anything from the hibernation file and load as if it was starting on a cold boot.
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I've had problems since yesterday regarding the hybrid (fast startup) shutdown.
The machine just won't do it, instead it does a full shutdown. I have the option thickened under power options but it still doesn't work.
The only software change was running a portable version of 00 Defrag 16. I used a portable version because installing it would cause the problem I described above (maybe something about reg files?). I've used the portable version a few days ago but just to scan the drive, yesterday I started to defragment the drive and then the problem surfaced.
hyberfil.sys
Running the shutdown -s -hybrid -t -f 0 does a full shutdown too.
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I have a new HP Envy h8-1414 and have it pretty well set up the way I want it. It seems to be working out alright.
Now I would like to migrate the system to a Intel SSD. Under Win 7 on another machine the process was very easily done by using Intel's Migration software. That process did not have to deal with and EFI BIOS but under the new HP it will have to deal with it. Also, I hope it will migrate the Factory Recovery partition. (The Win 7 is a home brew so there was no factory recovery involved.)
Does Intel's Migration software will take care of both the EFT stuff as well as the factory recover? If not, will you recommend a process that will do so as foolproof as possible?
I thought of creating a system image of the spinner and using the Win 8 recovery disc to restore it to the new SSD. Will that work?
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I migrated my hard drive using Paragon which was running Windows 8 a few days ago from my 500GB to my 3TB hard drive. It worked fine for a while however it's now been acting up recently. I noticed that the system reserved partition on my new hard disc (G: ) is only "Active, Primary Partition" and I still have a system reserved partition on my old hard disc (E: ) which is "System, Active, Primary Partition" so I'm guessing it's still somehow tied to my OS (even though I formatted my old hard disc as I want to set up a dual-boot system with Linux Mint), and the fact that whenever I start up my computer it says it's repairing E:.
What to do to make it so the system reserved G: partition is the "System, Active, Primary Partition" and how I can merge/format the E: and F: partitions on my old hard drive after?
I know the little mistake I made with the 3TB drive only being recognised as 2TB.
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My 128GB was about 70% full from week one, but now it is almost 100% full, I regularly carry out disk clean up, but I unable to get more than 1GB free on my hard drive, can this be right? How can I resolve this?
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I have followed this guide How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.Ive run this in another desktop, it completes and i shut down, remove the destination and insert it into the laptop - power up and it blue screens with There has been an unexpected error message. Trying to access the recovery partition says it is damaged but looks like its almost going to load. Looking at the drive in EaseUS paritition master the paritions look a perfect copy apart from the proportional sizing.
AHCI is enabled in bios - i've tried EaseUS Backup clone, task was successfull but again blue screens but this time with a attached device cant be found.
One thing i wasnt sure about, the PC i done the cloning in has a RAID stripe setup but not sure if this effects it.Any one had success in cloning a GPT drive over to a SSD?
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I thought that maybe now the generic driver will install that I have an older synaptics version installed and not some random windows driver, but no, the installation still fails.
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I'm sure some have tried this: If you just clone the RAID partition as it sits on to the SSD, it will not boot the SSD when the SATA Bios mode is set to AHCI.
So, besides a bare-metal reinstall, how do move my Windows 8.1 installation on to the SSD so that when its all done the SSD will boot into windows and the SATA Bios is in AHCI mode? I'm not opposed to purchasing software like Macrium or Acronis if any of those can do the job.
It seems like anyone using onboard RAID would have run into this problem after purchasing an SSD.
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Presently both Win7 (on a 120GB SSD drive) and Windows 8 (on a different 120GB SSD drive) are both MBR format. I don't want to start over from scratch. That's why I bought the Acronis 2013 with Plus Pack.
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Drive 2 - Partitions E: & F:
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System Info Utility version 1.0.0.2
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 8.1, 64 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7
Processor Count: 4
RAM: 8096 Mb
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics, -1988 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 481675 MB, Free - 420949 MB; E: Total - 458777 MB, Free - 189661 MB; K: Total - 1430795 MB, Free - 916319 MB; L: Total - 2861578 MB, Free - 1765857 MB; M: Total - 61035 MB, Free - 60997 MB; O: Total - 476937 MB, Free - 51069 MB;
Motherboard: Gateway, IPISB-VR
Antivirus: Windows Defender, Disabled, Norton 360
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