Migrating Classic Collector To Windows 8
Feb 23, 2013
how to migrate my electronic database of my personal CD collection from my old Windows XP Home Edition computer to my new one, which runs on Windows 8. I originally downloaded the software in 2003 and it now contains details of my extensive classical CD collection. The original designer and licensor of Classic Collector (which is very much a one-man-band) is no longer able to service enquiries owing to illness. I understand it is now available as a free download, but am not sure how much use that is to me as I already have a database containing several hundred 'covers' (CDs or CD sets) and several thousand individual music items.
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Dec 21, 2013
Recently I've upgraded my toshiba laptop with w7 to Windows 8.1 (without keeping any settings), but I cant get my synaptics touchpad to work.
Windows automatically installed some drivers for the touchpad but it didnt work. Then I downloaded newest generic drivers from synaptics website but they wouldnt install - I get an "installation failed" error without any elaboration.
So I've installed synaptics driver that was provided for my laptop for win 7. It installed nicely, but the touchpad still doesnt work - disabling/enabling it in synaptics tab in mouse settings doesnt change anything.
I thought that maybe now the generic driver will install that I have an older synaptics version installed and not some random windows driver, but no, the installation still fails.
The story unfolds :P Next I downloaded toshiba synaprics driver for win 8.1 that was developed for some newer laptop model as mine is no longer supported. The installation went smoothly but the touchpad still doesnt work.....
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Feb 18, 2014
Trying to migrate my system from HD to new SSD. I have system image saved to an external HD via USB 2.0, and also to DVD's.
When I try to restore from the external HD, the recovery window gives me only the option to restore to C: (system), when I want to restore to the SSD.
Restoring from the DVD doesn't work either.
Is migrating possible without 3rd party software? If not, any method which will work with 8.1?
Win 8.1 64-bit
HP ENVY TouchSmart 17-j043cl Notebook PC
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Jun 13, 2013
Question: How would you approach this migration?
I just bought a copy of Acronis True Image 2013 with Plus Pack. It appears that this is all I need as True Image will install the new motherboard drivers as part of the migration process. But do I stay with MBR or move to GPT?
Presently both Win7 (on a 120GB SSD drive) and Windows 8 (on a different 120GB SSD drive) are both MBR format. I don't want to start over from scratch. That's why I bought the Acronis 2013 with Plus Pack.
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Jan 14, 2013
I just recently built a new Windows 8 machine. Since I knew I was going to be getting an SSD down the road, I planned ahead:
Nutshell, the C: drive, the boot drive, is at the end of the partition, sized to 220 DB, so I knew it would be smaller than the 240/256GB drive I knew I'd eventually be getting. The Users folder is on the D: drive, so the C: partition is only the OS and apps. Everything's dandy.
I found EasyBCD and used it to move the boot manager over into the C: partition, so theoretically that's all I need to move over to the new drive. So what I want to do is move the C: partition over to the SSD, have it stay C: once it's there, and then have it boot into that partition. (Note that I cannot disconnect the hard drive when it's time to reboot because that's where the Users folder lives and I don't want to break that.)
I keep running into problems with the "keeping it C" part. When I clone the drive over, the old drive stays as C: (as you would expect), and the new drive gets a new letter. Attempts to change those letters using DISKPART from the Win 8 install DVD have been either futile or disastrous.
I've been using the free version of Macrium as my cloning / imaging tool...is there a better free tool I should be using?
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Dec 7, 2012
I have a new HP Envy h8-1414 and have it pretty well set up the way I want it. It seems to be working out alright.
Now I would like to migrate the system to a Intel SSD. Under Win 7 on another machine the process was very easily done by using Intel's Migration software. That process did not have to deal with and EFI BIOS but under the new HP it will have to deal with it. Also, I hope it will migrate the Factory Recovery partition. (The Win 7 is a home brew so there was no factory recovery involved.)
Does Intel's Migration software will take care of both the EFT stuff as well as the factory recover? If not, will you recommend a process that will do so as foolproof as possible?
I thought of creating a system image of the spinner and using the Win 8 recovery disc to restore it to the new SSD. Will that work?
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Jan 19, 2014
I just bought the HP Envy 17t-j100 Quad Edition with the 1TB hybrid drive and the 240GB SSD Upgrade Kit that you can get on the Customize and Buy page. I wanted to put the OS onto the SSD because I haul my laptop all over the countryside for work and it takes a beating and the SSD withstands that kind of treatment better. After a huge fiasco of trying to get mounting brackets and connecting cable that should come with the kit but don't, I finally got the thing physically installed in my second drive bay.
I tried using Acronis True Image to clone it over, as that was the cloning software that came with the SSD but apparently that version was incompatible with 8.1. So I bought the newer version, but apparently Acronis won't work if the drives are that different in size. I finally had a repair shop guy migrate it over for me but he had to enable Legacy booting to do it and now I have this obnoxious message in the lower right part of my screen:
"Windows 8.1
SecureBoot isn't configured correctly
Build 9600"
That is a minor annoyance and if I have to live with it, so be it. But I also find myself having difficulty downloading drivers from HP because now that I have a new SSD instead of the original hybrid drive, my specs no longer conform to the specs of my model of laptop and HP can't figure out which drivers are the right ones for my machine. I know I should have had the guy at the shop keep it and finish the job properly but I need my computer for my work and can't be without it overnight. My old laptop died and I'm limping along with this one as best I can until I get it up to speed.
The guy from the shop told me that I would have to disable Legacy booting if I wanted to get rid of that message. He also told me that to do that I would need to create a bootable disk and then re-install 8.1 after disabling Legacy booting on the SSD. This is the point at which my limited expertise fails me.
I am having trouble creating the bootable USB drive because when I try to download the file and enter my product key it says, "This product key cannot be used to install a retail version of WIndows 8.1." I take that to mean that my pre-installed 8.1 product key is not the same as the type of key needed for the download. So I'm stuck there.
My main question is this: Will it work to just do a full re-install using the existing 8.1 that was migrated from the hybrid drive to my SSD or will I end up screwed because I can't find the right drivers once I remove the few drivers the shop guy installed for me because I'm on a different type of drive than HP recognizes?
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Oct 8, 2013
I migrated my hard drive using Paragon which was running Windows 8 a few days ago from my 500GB to my 3TB hard drive. It worked fine for a while however it's now been acting up recently. I noticed that the system reserved partition on my new hard disc (G: ) is only "Active, Primary Partition" and I still have a system reserved partition on my old hard disc (E: ) which is "System, Active, Primary Partition" so I'm guessing it's still somehow tied to my OS (even though I formatted my old hard disc as I want to set up a dual-boot system with Linux Mint), and the fact that whenever I start up my computer it says it's repairing E:.
What to do to make it so the system reserved G: partition is the "System, Active, Primary Partition" and how I can merge/format the E: and F: partitions on my old hard drive after?
I know the little mistake I made with the 3TB drive only being recognised as 2TB.
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Mar 20, 2014
Is there a way to run a more CLASSIC version of windows in windows 8? Like windows 7, I'm having a hard time navigating windows 8. Don't like it at all!!!
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Jan 15, 2014
i have a Lenovo Ideapad Z585 running Windows 8, secure boot, gpt paritioning and UEFI bios.The laptop comes with a factory shipped 1TB Sata drive which i want to replace with a Kingston V300 SDD 120GB drive.
I have followed this guide How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk.Ive run this in another desktop, it completes and i shut down, remove the destination and insert it into the laptop - power up and it blue screens with There has been an unexpected error message. Trying to access the recovery partition says it is damaged but looks like its almost going to load. Looking at the drive in EaseUS paritition master the paritions look a perfect copy apart from the proportional sizing.
AHCI is enabled in bios - i've tried EaseUS Backup clone, task was successfull but again blue screens but this time with a attached device cant be found.
One thing i wasnt sure about, the PC i done the cloning in has a RAID stripe setup but not sure if this effects it.Any one had success in cloning a GPT drive over to a SSD?
I cant do a fresh installation of windows 8 as i dont have recovery discs, nor does the onekey recovery software allow me to do so and id like to keep the recovery parition in tact really.
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Sep 15, 2014
Currently using Onboard RAID1 which is just a pair of 1TB SATA drives that boots into windows 8.1. SATA BIOS mode is set to RAID.
I need want to switch the onboard SATA mode to AHCI so I can boot to SSD, instead.
I'm sure some have tried this: If you just clone the RAID partition as it sits on to the SSD, it will not boot the SSD when the SATA Bios mode is set to AHCI.
So, besides a bare-metal reinstall, how do move my Windows 8.1 installation on to the SSD so that when its all done the SSD will boot into windows and the SATA Bios is in AHCI mode? I'm not opposed to purchasing software like Macrium or Acronis if any of those can do the job.
It seems like anyone using onboard RAID would have run into this problem after purchasing an SSD.
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May 16, 2013
I had win7 and I would right click on the desktop hit Personalize, in Personalize i would chose Windows Classic in Basic and High Contrast Themes but i just upgraded to win8 and used the win7 shell thing my brother told me about mostly everything looks like 7 but I have 8 cool but i cant get the folders to look the way i like them, the 7 shell didnt do it, is there a way to get my old folder look back?
Or is there a way to take files from win7 and add them to win8 so that i could get back to Windows Classic folders in Personalize?
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Feb 14, 2013
when I start an application (such as word, excel, task manager, etc.) from start menu, windows goes to the classic desktop and runs the application itself. Once I have finished using it and close, it returns to the classic desktop, not to start menu.
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Nov 10, 2013
I never like upgrades, so am planning on a format (Samsung SSD) and a clean install of Win 8.1 from the image I downloaded.
However I have one (biggish to me) concern, I still like to use a program called (Ex7forW8exe) this gives me the Windows 7 lookalike/classic shell, Start button and Start Menu etc, so What program works with Windows 8.1 ?
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Apr 1, 2012
The latest version of Classic Shell supports Windows 8 Consumer Preview. The new features are:
A customizable start button. You can pick from Classic, Aero and Metro styles, or select your own image. Unlike Start8 and ViStart, this is a real start button. It can extend beyond the taskbar, and works well for any taskbar position, even in auto-hide mode.A new Metro skin for the start menu. For people who like Metro, but not the start screen.All settings are updated to reflect the changes to Windows 8. For example the status bar settings are gone, because the status bar in Windows 8's Explorer can't be customized.The check for new version is more responsive and can be disabled during installation.
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Jan 29, 2014
I purchased a new laptop with Windows 8 OS pre-installed and SKYPE application pre-installed as well.
This new way of Skype behavior is very annoying. How I may return into classical use of Skype, as it was in Windows XP and Windows 7, where I had a Skype shortcut on my desktop and clicking the Shortcut opens the Skype application directly in the desktop.
When Skype in Windows 8 opens in a new lay out feature is very uncomfortable and unfamiliar. how to get back to the previous classical way of behavior for Skype.
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Feb 6, 2014
I need to switch back and forth between an open pdf file, MS Word, and websites. I can open the pdf file fine. But if I switch to another task, the pdf file disappears. There is no icon for the pdf file on the taskbar. So then I have to open it again from scratch. What am I doing wrong?
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Jan 22, 2013
So, i have installed classic shell, newest version, to add start menu, disable charm bar. But, this program doesnt actualy disable them, it just visually removes things, i still can open charm bar with shortcuts, like with touchpad - i have to cross though touchpad a little bit from the very right to left, and charm bar opens ... So, how to disable these shortcuts ?
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Jan 16, 2013
I have Classic Shell set up on two Window 8 machines, a desktop and an ASUS Q200e laptop. And it is thing of beauty on one machine but less so on the other. The desktop works just fine but on the ASUS I cannot skip the Metro screen. At boot, the Metro shows up for a long, long time before Classic Shell shows up. Yes, I have the 'skip Metro' item checked . On the desktop Classic Shell shows up immediately without showing any trace of Metro. I have compared the settings on both machines one by one and they are identical as far as I can see.
I made a Registry edit to produce a Classic Shell service log and here is the content of that log.
0x50F664F7 Starting service
0x50F664F7 Session 0 (4)
0x50F664F7 Session 1 (0)
0x50F664F7 Starting process: C:Program FilesClassic ShellClassicStartMenu.exe -startup
I believe the problem has something to do with one of the ASUS programs that gets loaded at startup. The OS is the one installed and shipped with the computer while the desktop is a clean install from a DVD.
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Aug 16, 2014
I have a Toshiba laptop running Win 8.1. Things were fine when I shut down lsst night. Now I have no task bar, now way to get to my programs and the classic icon is gone so I cannot turn it off. Also I cannot open Win 8 start page and the symbols do not appear on the left hand side.
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Aug 30, 2013
When I switched to a Windows 8 laptop from my MacBook, my iPod Classic is not recognized by the Win 8 machine. I've tried to copy and paste music files from the HD to the iPod, but once the iPod is ejected, no music shows up on the iPod. I've downloaded iTunes, which seems to recognize when the iPod is plugged in, but I haven't been able to move any music from the HD to the iPod.
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Oct 14, 2013
Anyway to transfer back to the old Yahoo Classic ?
I have "googled" the issue but most possible solutions are outdated. One older solution was changing the screen resolution which supposedly transfers back to the Classic but this did not work.
I personally have not experienced any issues with the new Yahoo Mail as stated below, but just prefer the Classic format.
Anger explodes at Yahoo Mail redesign disaster: Key functions removed or broken | ZDNet
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Apr 16, 2014
The loss of the Classic Shell toolbar in Windows Explorer is still puzzling me.
I've been through all the Classic Shell options (I think!) and messed around with Windows Explorer, but after installing 8.1 the toolbar seems to have disappeared.
I used to have all the View buttons pinned to the bar and I'm really missing it. I know they can be put in the Quick Access Bar, but it's not as usable/fast as the Classic Shell version (the change as hovering I also find very annoying).
EDIT: Just realise I hadn't checked the version I was using. It's 4.0.4 and re-checking the developers site I've now realised that they're up to 4.0.6 ------ Could this be the issue?
I seem to remember that 4.0.6 was not yet stable, or have I dreamt that - I think I probably have
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Nov 17, 2012
how do you remove the tiles & create classic desktop (with a start function at bottom Left corner)without touching the registry ???
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Dec 3, 2013
I find that I am using the Classic Shell less, but still want to have the format available. My problem is that every time I reboot my computer, I have to reset the Classic Shell settings.
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Jul 1, 2012
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== Version 3.5.1 general release (Jun, 2012): - Enabled the custom start button for Windows 7 and added more settings - Added a setting to skip the Metro screen on startup - Improved compatibility with the IE10's Enhanced Protected Mode - Fixed some bugs found in the previous version
I've tested it and confirm that it skips the Metro screen.
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Aug 8, 2013
I was wondering if we have a way to customize the Start Orb/Button with this software? I downgraded to an older version because the newest one had a look that literally appears to be the Shell gasoline logo! At least with this version it simulates the Windows color scheme.
I am using Version 3.6.7. The current version is 3.6.8. but it has a blued out background with the Shell logo prominent.
If it were not for Classic Shell I would not be using Windows 8 at all.
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Jan 30, 2013
I have win 8 pro installed & two HDDs with two partions each , I want to migrate the boot partition to another partition on the second drive .
It would have been easier if i would have just cloned the complete drives but one of the partions on the 2nd drive has data which cannot be deleted .
So I have Drive
1 - Partitions C: ( boot partition ) & D:
Drive 2 - Partitions E: & F:
I want to remove Drive 1 from my PC so i want to copy C: to E: then remove drive 1 & boot from E:
I tried "Easeus todo backup" , did not work, it does not make the copy bootable , to make it bootale the whole drive has to be copied .
I tried making an image of C: using Windows 8 inbuilt backup feature then removed drive 1 , installed Windows 8 on E: then tried restoring the image of C: but i got some error.
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Jul 5, 2013
I have a problem which started recently. The problem is that everything closes unexpectedly. I am using the classic desktop environment to use this system and all the 'apps' I use a classing Windows programs.
Randomly all of the programs that are running on the machine close down without warning (And I mean ALL of them, even explorer.exe). I know that this has not been caused by a recent installation of a program as I have not installed anything recently. I also checked the computer with an Anti-Virus software as that could have been a cause but there wasn't anything.
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Apr 4, 2014
Is there any FREE software like start8 that provides classic shell menu but with "boot to desktop" option?
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Nov 23, 2012
I see there is a Classic Start 8 Menu that once installed will give you back the Windows 7 style menu. If you install it, can you still go back to the default Windows 8 Start page if you like?
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