Windows 8.1 Fast Start Up (hybrid Boot)
Sep 17, 2014
I recently installed windows 8.1 and there is a problem with the windows Fast Start up (hybrid boot) feature as sometimes it works and windows starts very fast and sometimes it doesn't starts fast but just take sometime to start as if I started from a cold boot. I tried everything from inside the windows to solve this problem but nothing worked
I read in some threads that this fast boot technology works by saving the system into a hibernation file in the system drive when you shutdown the PC and at boot Hybrid boot well just use this hibernation file to start up faster by loading some system related files from it.
So I thinks that sometimes it loads the information from the hibernation file to load the system fast and sometimes it doesn't load anything from the hibernation file and load as if it was starting on a cold boot.
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Jan 23, 2014
On Acer 3820TG (Win 8.1) I am trying to force system to use hybrid shutdown/fast startup function. I've already tried all steps from this topic: Fast Startup - Force Use by All Users in Windows 8 but no success - system performs full shutdown. The only solution that works for me is shutting down with command "shutdown.exe /s /hybrid /t 0". Then system shuts down in ~5 sec and starts in ~15 s.
If you shut down a computer from the right-click-left-bottom-corner menu in desktop mode, then click Shutdown -> system performs full shutdown. If you click Shutdown in charms bar -> system performs hybrid shutdown. Now my PC is starting in 8s, laptop in 15s.
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Oct 18, 2012
I've had problems since yesterday regarding the hybrid (fast startup) shutdown.
The machine just won't do it, instead it does a full shutdown. I have the option thickened under power options but it still doesn't work.
The only software change was running a portable version of 00 Defrag 16. I used a portable version because installing it would cause the problem I described above (maybe something about reg files?). I've used the portable version a few days ago but just to scan the drive, yesterday I started to defragment the drive and then the problem surfaced.
hyberfil.sys
Running the shutdown -s -hybrid -t -f 0 does a full shutdown too.
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May 26, 2013
I created a new task using the task manager with "at system startup" trigger. This used to work with Windows 7, but now with Windows 8 and its hybrid boot feature, the task is only run when the system does a full boot.
So, how do I run a command at hybrid boot startup without the user being logged in? I don't want to disable hybrid boot either.
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Jun 18, 2014
Windows to go doesn't seem to have a Fast boot option -- Not a real issue since I use an SSD for this but just curious. I suppose if Windows to Go is being used on different computers and the idea is to use the external device totally then it obviously doesn't make sense to store a file on the Host PC's HDD.
Anyway two screenshots -- you can see the Windows to Go doesn't have a fast boot option. Ist screenshot is from Windows to Go -- both running Windows 8.1 enterprise update 1 x-64 on REAL (not Virtual) Machines.
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Mar 23, 2013
I wanted to know if fast startup drains power cause i know sleep drains a bit and hibernate draws even less.
I have a desktop pc and i just want to know if for example it is better to use the CMD full shutdown or disable fast startup when i want to leave for holidays or the weekend for example so i can save some money from my bill .
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Jul 26, 2013
I use several applications (video encoders, download tools etc.) that offer a "shutdown when done" option. What I've noticed with Win 8 x64, is that when this type of shutdown is executed, Fast Startup is disabled and when the PC is turned back on, boot-up time is significantly increased (similar to a restart, where Fast Startup is also disabled). Is there a way around this? It seems unlikely that all these applications do something wrong. Maybe Windows treats this type of shutdown differently?
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Oct 11, 2013
i have problem with my dualboot. When installing ubuntu 13.04 and window 8 along each other, windows 8 won't hybernate (screen just gets blank and lock itself), tha same with turning computer off (when fast bootup is enabled). When i recover mbr using bootrec.exe /fixmbr (basicly switch back from GRUB2 so i cannot boot into linux) everything works fine.
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Sep 15, 2014
I accidentally deleted my Fast Boot boot options and when I enable it my laptop restarts and shows the BIOS, without booting into my system(s). However, when I enable CSM boot it gives me option of booting into my systems. I want to restore my Fast Boot options so my laptop boots up faster and basically because my laptop is made for Fast Boot.
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Sep 27, 2013
I have Asus Maximus V formula z77 with latest EUFI firmware, and EVGA GTX 680 classified with EUFI firmware. Bios is set to fast boot etc, and it is enabled in windows, but I'm seeing no difference from before. I was using boot racer and seeing 11-14 second windows load times with another 10-15 til desktop. Averaging around 28 second boot speeds, whether from a fast boot shut down or a restart. My OS drive is a Samsung 840 EVO 250GB.
My windows 7 booted faster on an OCZ Vertex 4 128GB.
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Aug 1, 2014
I've now optimized my remaining Windows XP system --removed all the junk and duplicate programs which run on later versions of Windows so I've got a nice small tidy XP system -- basically Scanner (old canon photo scanner N1240), some VINYL editing and cutting software, OCR software, Minidisc software (still great for portable RECORDING !!) and an HP plotter and one or two odd programs. I don't need Photoshop or office any more in the XP system nor Ms Office, and I don't bother with the Internet on it either so no security problems there.
I've kept connectivity for printing (Epson 1400 printer) - the whole OS is 12 GB and it boots up in about 2 Secs (a VM running from a Linux host) --I've allocated it 1 GB - I'm sure I could run it in 768 MB too.
On my 8GB laptop it runs fine concurrently with a Windows 8.1 VM (allocated 4GB RAM for that) both on a Linux Host.
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Aug 21, 2013
I am using Windows 8 64 Bit and have lost the password for the Administrator Account (Local). I am only able to login using the Standard Account and unable to create any more admin accounts or make any changes, I am even unable to perform the Gateway Recovery as its asking for the Administrator Password. I even can't enter the BIOS to disable the Fast Boot or change the First Boot to USB so that I can use any other Image of Windows 8 to reinstall.
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Sep 15, 2014
For a few days I have been having some problems with my computer. Whenever I shutdown properly and then start again, the Desktop loads fine and after a few seconds of coming to the desktop. I see a black screen in front of me, I try to press num lock on and off to see if the system froze, it indeed froze. I disabled fastboot, after that even if I start after shutdown, it boots fine.
If I restart, it boots fine. Not sure why as my system should be fully compatible with fast boot. Here is my system specs, everything is updated as of posting:
MSI Z87 - G43 Gaming Motherboard with latest BIOS
Sapphire TriX R9 290 OC
Samsung 250GB 840 EVO
8GB RAM
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Jul 5, 2014
I can't enter my BIOS/UEFI after activating "MSI Fast Boot" in the BIOS/UEFI.
I read somewhere about "GO2BIOS",but my installation disk didn't came with that software.
MB: H81M-E34 (MSI Global H81M-E34)
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Oct 21, 2013
I have a Toshiba Satellite hybrid, with Windows 8, 4GB RAM and 128 SSD hard drive. I have full Microsoft office and very few other programs, there are the Toshiba installed software which I don't use and the windows 8 based 'apps' which I also hardly use.
My 128GB was about 70% full from week one, but now it is almost 100% full, I regularly carry out disk clean up, but I unable to get more than 1GB free on my hard drive, can this be right? How can I resolve this?
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Jun 28, 2013
I have installed Blue 8.1 on a separate drive in my system along side 8.0. When I restart the 8.0 boots unless I manually select the 8.1 drive in bios. How can I alter the Boot menu to add the option to boot from either OS?
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Jan 19, 2014
I just bought the HP Envy 17t-j100 Quad Edition with the 1TB hybrid drive and the 240GB SSD Upgrade Kit that you can get on the Customize and Buy page. I wanted to put the OS onto the SSD because I haul my laptop all over the countryside for work and it takes a beating and the SSD withstands that kind of treatment better. After a huge fiasco of trying to get mounting brackets and connecting cable that should come with the kit but don't, I finally got the thing physically installed in my second drive bay.
I tried using Acronis True Image to clone it over, as that was the cloning software that came with the SSD but apparently that version was incompatible with 8.1. So I bought the newer version, but apparently Acronis won't work if the drives are that different in size. I finally had a repair shop guy migrate it over for me but he had to enable Legacy booting to do it and now I have this obnoxious message in the lower right part of my screen:
"Windows 8.1
SecureBoot isn't configured correctly
Build 9600"
That is a minor annoyance and if I have to live with it, so be it. But I also find myself having difficulty downloading drivers from HP because now that I have a new SSD instead of the original hybrid drive, my specs no longer conform to the specs of my model of laptop and HP can't figure out which drivers are the right ones for my machine. I know I should have had the guy at the shop keep it and finish the job properly but I need my computer for my work and can't be without it overnight. My old laptop died and I'm limping along with this one as best I can until I get it up to speed.
The guy from the shop told me that I would have to disable Legacy booting if I wanted to get rid of that message. He also told me that to do that I would need to create a bootable disk and then re-install 8.1 after disabling Legacy booting on the SSD. This is the point at which my limited expertise fails me.
I am having trouble creating the bootable USB drive because when I try to download the file and enter my product key it says, "This product key cannot be used to install a retail version of WIndows 8.1." I take that to mean that my pre-installed 8.1 product key is not the same as the type of key needed for the download. So I'm stuck there.
My main question is this: Will it work to just do a full re-install using the existing 8.1 that was migrated from the hybrid drive to my SSD or will I end up screwed because I can't find the right drivers once I remove the few drivers the shop guy installed for me because I'm on a different type of drive than HP recognizes?
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Sep 15, 2014
I googled SSD Hybrid Defrag and read some of the answers on 'to defrag or not defrag' - there seems to be two minds on this.
1. Do not defrag the Hybrid at all, the SSD section is a virtual drive that automatically stores the files, progs that you use the most for hi speed access. Any attempt will 'wear out' the SSD ???
2. You can defrag the SSD Hybrid because the SSD section is 'virtual' and will not be accessed by the Defragger??
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Sep 15, 2014
Recently, I have a hybrid laptop (Lenovo Yoga 2 13). It recognizes my different laptop positions, so the keyboard is disabled when I rotate the screen.
But when I use it in laptop mode (using regular keyboard to type), I still get the touch keyboard on screen when I touch the screen on a writing field. How can I disable the touch keyboard if I use the tablet in laptop mode?
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Feb 1, 2013
I just bought a Seagate ST750LX003 Momentus XT 750 GB as the new primary drive for my gaming laptop, and I'm wondering how to defrag them, and whether it is safe. I wanted the best of both worlds (space and speed) so I went for the middle ground. What is the difference between a regular HDD, SSHD, and a SSD? Do I just let Windows perform its' normal defrag routine as I normally would, or do I need to download some kind of proprietary software from Seagate that will do it? I like to use 3rd party software (UltimateDefrag) for my defrag operations, is all. And how much can I fill it up before it starts to slow down? I ask because I've heard that you cant fill an SSD up past around 50 to 60% or so before it slowly starts to degrade, since it needs room to perform its' TRIM (defrag) operations. Is this also true of SSHDs?
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Apr 24, 2013
I bought a new laptop 350gb HDD with Windows 8 64bit preinstalled (no disc came with it) however I needed win7 32bit for my job since the softwares used are only compatible with old win version. I managed to back up my Windows 8 before I partitioned my HDD into 3 drives and installed win7 ultimate 32 bit on a different partition. I remember that my Windows 8 was installed in Drive C (100GB) while I have 80+GB for Shared files on Drive E and the rest of the memory are for Drive D where I installed win 7 and I labeled each drives accordingly. At first everything was working fine on both O.S, it was giving me the dual boot option at start up but I forgot if I really have tested running both O.S. before I gave my laptop to my supervisor and asked him a favor to intall the softwares for work purposes.
My supervisor then approached me and said that there might be some incompatibility issue with the updates I have on my win7 coz some applications don't install so he asked me if its ok if he reinstalls a new win7 so I said yes since Im confident that its will work fine and I have backed up my Windows 8 anyway, in short, I left everything into his hands. Later, he then got back to me and told me every job related softwares now work except that my Windows 8 now doesnt show and yes, dual boot option is not there anymore and it boots automatically to win7 like Windows 8 is not there.
I've read some forums how to check if your O.S are still there and it could just be a boot up issue and use of Easy BCD might work. I have attached images below for your reference. Now what I'm confused of is that my Windows 8 appears to be in Drive D and win7 could be in Drive C, which I'm thinking if they were exchanged when my sup reinstalled win7 or he may have overlapped my Windows 8. Im pretty sure he knows which drive is for which O.S since I labeled them. Now Im afraid to use EasyBCD on the wrong drive and I cant approach my supervisor anymore to bother him again since he worked on my laptop for almost the whole day at work.
- if both o.s. are still intact and recognized
- why the Drive letters got mixed up and how to check which drive has which o.s coz it seems like both drives has a part of my work related applications (didn't put personal files yet on win 8 when I had both o.s installed)
- is Drive D really is my Windows 8 now?
- does Easy BCD really work
- how to use Easy BCD to get my Windows 8 to boot up to or both of them to show at start up without corrupting my work related softwares
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Apr 4, 2014
how do I boot a recovery drive usb on start up in windows 8 .1
How do I boot a recovery drive usb on start up in windows 8 .1 like I can do in win 7 with a repair disk DVD? I
followed the instructions and I cannot bring up the usb disk.
I have had problems with win 8.1 to the point that I got in but was frozen and had to start over. F2 does not work.
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Mar 4, 2014
I have had Windows 8.1 64 bit in my computer for about two months now and everything was working fine..ive noticed last month that after one of the updates (possibly Skydrive icon update) that my windows start up sound wasn't working when I start my computer from a cold boot. Interestingly the sound does work again once im in the OS and I do a restart. I went into sounds and made sure the check mark to play start up sound was clicked btw.
It was working fine before one of the updates. (Also just to note that I set the option to boot directly to desktop and also I changed my user account where i dont see the login screen and it bypasses the password to boot quicker into the desktop.)
The reason why im wondering this is because I have a dz77ga-70k intel motherboard and when I cold boot im noticing a post code 40 on the motherboard when usually it should be 00...funny part is that just as I mentioned before with audio once I do a restart it goes back to normal with a 00 post code. I think its related to an update and something to do with windows not starting correctly from a cold boot.
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May 12, 2014
Last night I updated windows 8.1 from windows 8. It got to the stage where it needs to restart so it done that started the configarations and once it reached 100% it restarted.
Since then what happens is when i press power on the samsung logo comes on the screen then the black screen with the windows picture then the bsod comes up for around half a second and it restarts. then it constantly does this.
The whole cycle only takes a few seconds.
Ive tried booting in safe mode but this isnt working so I downloaded kav rescue on another computer and saved it on a flash drive, But it wont boot off this either.
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Oct 24, 2013
I'm not sure what's exactly the problem but sometimes Windows 8.1 hangs at the Windows logo at boot with Fast Startup enabled on a mSATA SSD with my Lenovo Y570 laptop.
My laptop does not support Secure Boot/GPT or UEFI, so I'm really unsure if that's the problem.
Once I disable Fast Startup the boot process never hangs ever but it makes my bootup time slightly slower.
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Dec 29, 2012
Boot Direct to Desktop. I found this in a Windows 8 book in the Start Screen Store. If you want to boot directly into the desktop without passing thru the Start Screen
-Go to the start screen & type in schedule to search for Schedule Task in Settings.
-Click on Task Scheduler Library in the left pane, and select Create Task in right pane.
-Name your task something like Boot to desktop.
-Now select the Triggers tab, choose New, and use the drop-down box to select starting the task At log on.
-Click OK and go to the Actions tab, choose New, and enter explorer for the Program/Script value.
-Press OK, save the task, and restart to test it out.
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Oct 16, 2012
I am unable to boot my system as it is not moving forward after the windows start up screen. Not even that i am unable to repair or reinstall windows. Even the recovery DVD is not working.
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Mar 29, 2014
Over the last few days I built a new PC with ASUS A87 Pro MB, no PCIe cards, and Samsung ssd 840 Pro boot drive. Lots of changes on a daily basis. For a while, the FAST STARTUP hybrid boot was working. Then it stopped, and I'm trying to debug it.
When PAST STARTUP is enabled in power options, I get a repeatable Critical Error - Windows did not shut down properly, and the startup time is as long as it would be without FAST STARTUP enabled. There are no BSODS, and no apparent harm from the Critical Shutdown error.
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Jan 16, 2013
I am in the process of applying for a work from home job. I had to burn an Iso Image onto a DVD so that I can see if my computer meet the system requirements for the job. The DVD is burned successfully but now I cannot get the system to boot to the dvd... it instead just opens Windows 8. I have a brand new Toshiba Satellite running Windows 8 which is what I came installed with.
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Dec 12, 2013
I've got a Macbookpro
One of the best things I like is being able to find files *instantly*
I'm a directory freak and looove to embed my files in sooo many levels deep
On the Mac, I'll search. I'll blink... and the results has come back
(I hate the interface which I haven't quite got to grips with just yet)
On Windows: there's a file. I don't know what it's called. I don't know where I've put it. I know I last used it 3 months ago and it's a Word doc. I don't know what drive I've put it on...
So I search the whole damn computer... for a doc file less than 6 months old
I then go fishing... go for a coffee... have a bath...
And when I get back 5 hours later... hey presto... Windows gives me a list of results.
I know there was some indexing programs - like Google Desk (erm... I think that's what it's called - I could just be making that up from my mind)... I know Microsoft had one as well... and a few other 3rd party programs where available.Where are they?
I have Windows 8 - I thought it would be built in?
One thing I don't like is adding an extra layer - thereby slowing my machine down
On Mac it's part of the blood system - it's inbuilt and takes no overhead
I assume, every single time a file gets added or removed... the file record database is updated.
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Jun 27, 2013
I noticed from some days that in windows 8 pro, the Fast Start-up did no longer works. and windows booting loading and shutdown takes many time, 2 or 3 days before it was fast since I installed windows 8. why is that,? although these option still checked,
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