Maintenance :: Windows 8.1 - Defrag On SSD
Aug 3, 2013
Installed 8.1 some 2 weeks ago (give or take).
Now today i wanted to look to my 2 external spindle drives if defrag had run and it did run......BUT also on my Samsung SSD's which i never do myself.
Windows 8 erroneously defrags SSDs, indeed. Doesn't look like it's been fixed in Windows 8.1.
Why Windows 8 defragments your SSD and how you can avoid this.
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Feb 24, 2014
Windows 8, but I've updated my box to Windows 8.1. I have a 250Gb Truecrypt file as my 'Documents stash' which I mount as a separate drive.
On Win 7 I could defrag this but on 8.1 the drive is greyed out not giving me chance to defrag it.
(See attached screenshots from Win 7 HP & 8.1 Core)
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Oct 28, 2013
I tried to upgrade to windows 8 through the store and if failed horribly, the pc refused to boot a an error code I that don't remember so I decided to wipe everything and install Windows 8.1 from a usb drive. Everything was fine for the past week and a half until 2 days ago when the disk defragmentation tool decided to stop working, I ran the tool many times after installing 8.1 and it has always worked but now I get a 0x80070057 error which should mean that the size of my partition is wrong. I did a chkdsk /r /f that took 2 hours to complete and it didn't find any errors and I also ran a sfc /scannow with no luck.
Here is a screenshot
After spending some time googling for the issue I found out that there are many Windows 8.1 users with the same issue and on the microsoft forums no one seems to be able to fix this. From what I understand this seems to be related to the size values of the partition which according to the defragger are wrong but the tool was working before and I didn't edit the partition in any way.
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Jul 8, 2014
I'm using Windows 8 Home Premium 64 Bit.
My Disk Defragmenter that came with the system will not open. When I try to open it, a CMD windows appears for 1 second and disappears. I have tried opening it in all ways.
I have tried:
Safe Mode
Sfc /Scannow
Chkdsk
Anti Malware scans
I need something like the answer for this question, only a way to do it in Windows 8. His instructions only work on Windows 7.
Disk Defragmenter won't open in Windows 7
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Jan 10, 2013
im using Windows 8 64bit and every time I try to defrag or optimize it it goes to pass 2.92% and just hangs there for hours before I just give up. also anylize takes forever to complete
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Oct 27, 2013
I have this wired volume in my defrag screen after windows 8.1 upgrade what the heck is it here is a picture. Highlighted in blue is the volume ??
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May 14, 2013
So I tried to open defrag today for the first time with using Windows 8 and when I click on the application the command prompt opens and closes in about two seconds and then nothing happens.
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Sep 10, 2013
I Defraged my comp to Optimize. After defrag, my mouse and keyboard no longer worked. I tried restarting, unpluging and switching to a wired mouse and keyboard. I can't get the comp to recognize them. I also switched between back and front ports.
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Jan 18, 2013
Do you use the built-in Windows Optimize Drivers (Disk Defrag) or do you use a third party product?
If third party product, which product and why?
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Mar 23, 2013
I am running Win 8 Pro.
My set up has 2 x 650 GB WD Black hard drives and a Samsung 840 (non pro) for the boot drive.
I have run the latest Samsung Magician, however the BIG problem is that it has stopped the windows 8 Defrag program.
I reinstalled Win 8 and all was OK, (now for the bit about me being thick -- ) I thought I would try the old version of Samsung Magician, and Bu**er me if has not only done the same thing again, turned off defrag and optimize, I am just unable to open defrag in order to defrag my WD drives.
I do not really want to reinstall Windows 8 again unless I have to, so how to switch defrag bag on again.
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Mar 24, 2013
Whenever I run defrag this happens:
It goes away after about 0.1 second and I can't read what it says (it goes by to fast)
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Jun 4, 2014
It seems that Windows 8.1 Pro's scheduled defrag is consolidating free space, which is taking forever on one of my 2 TB data drives, which has about 300 GB free space. I stopped it at about 9%, and dfrgui immediately showed it as "OK (0% fragmented)". Clicking its Optimize button resulted in the defrag phase completing almost immediately, but then it was back to consolidating free space, starting at 5% this time. According to Task Manager, it's read/writing about 40 MB/sec, and the Active Time is over 90%. I really don't want this to go on for hours and hours and potentially repeat itself during future scheduled scans. Is it possible to alter this behavior, or should I just disable the weekly defrag task?
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Feb 1, 2013
I just bought a Seagate ST750LX003 Momentus XT 750 GB as the new primary drive for my gaming laptop, and I'm wondering how to defrag them, and whether it is safe. I wanted the best of both worlds (space and speed) so I went for the middle ground. What is the difference between a regular HDD, SSHD, and a SSD? Do I just let Windows perform its' normal defrag routine as I normally would, or do I need to download some kind of proprietary software from Seagate that will do it? I like to use 3rd party software (UltimateDefrag) for my defrag operations, is all. And how much can I fill it up before it starts to slow down? I ask because I've heard that you cant fill an SSD up past around 50 to 60% or so before it slowly starts to degrade, since it needs room to perform its' TRIM (defrag) operations. Is this also true of SSHDs?
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Oct 30, 2012
I keep reading different interpretations on whether Windows 8 does a trim command or defrag using the new "optimization" utility (formally defrag).
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Nov 4, 2013
My computer freezes when I right click on Defrag from the search menu. When trying to open it, nothing happens. I am able to get to defrag from the control panel.
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Nov 30, 2012
I can't find where the defrag App. is on Win8.
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Jul 22, 2013
I noticed that automatic maintenance in Win 8 cannot be disabled. I maintain my pc regularly and do not need it. Is there a way to do it or should I let it run?
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Apr 19, 2013
Having a problem with the Regular Maintenance waking the computer (Windows 8 on a Lenovo Q-190) to do its scheduled task as it's supposed to do. Here are the symptoms:
1. If I change the time for Scheduled Maintenance in the Action Center (Change Maintenance Settings), it WILL be reflected properly in the Properties of the Regular Maintenance Task in Task Scheduler.
2. However, if I check the box for "Allow scheduled maintenance to wake up my computer at the scheduled time" in the Action Center (Change Maintenance Settings), it WILL NOT reflect in the Properties of the Regular Maintenance Task in Task Schedular. Specially, I check the box to wake up my computer in the Action Center Maintenance Settings, but the corresponding checkmark is NOT reflected ("Wake the computer to run this task"), in the properties of the actual task in Task Scheduler.
3. I then put the checkmark directly in the Regular Maintenance Task itself ("Wake the computer to run this task"). However, at some point in the future, (not right away; I close and then reopen the task to make sure that it 'sticks'), the checkmark "disappears. Then, the task does not run at night while the computer is asleep, but runs in the morning when I wake the computer for regular use. At that point, the checkmark in the task is gone.
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Oct 15, 2013
I deleted maintenance tasks in task scheduler (Microsoft>windows>task scheduler) because I didn't want to have automatic maintenance fire up when I'm working, but sadly... some shit got messed up. My computer starts using hdd at 100% if left idle, and then freezes and all kinds of weird crap that I'm almost positive have to do with me deleting maintenance.
which tasks do I need to re-create in task scheduler in order to have auto-maintenance once again. If you could just read to me all the tasks, triggers, and which programs they are running .
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Sep 15, 2014
I had the idle & regular maintenance tasks disabled but they always re-enabled themselves. In a fit of madness I ended up deleting them but now when I open a folder with videos or images the thumbnails always display in a slow staggered way every time from left to right, If I then exit the folder & go back in they do the same again. It's almost like they are not being cached at all & are having to be redrawn every time.
The only change I have made to my system is remove Comodo firewall & install Private Firewall & delete the idle & regular maintenance tasks.
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Jun 21, 2014
I have Automatic Scheduled Maintenance set to run at 3:00AM. I get to this setting by going to Control Panel > Action Center > Maintenance > Change maintenance settings. I also have the box for "Allow scheduled maintenance to wake up my computer" checked.
However, I note that if I put my computer to sleep for a few days, when I wake it back up, Automatic Scheduled Maintenance has NOT run. I can tell this because my antivirus definitions are out-of-date and haven't been updated since I put the computer to sleep.
how to figure why it's not waking up for Scheduled Maintenance? Is it possibly a BIOS setting? Do I have to manually add it to Task Scheduler? I'm running Windows 8.1 Update 1, ASRock Z87E-ITX mobo, Intel i7-4770S CPU, Samsung 840 EVO mSATA SSD, 16GB RAM.
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Feb 1, 2013
I found out how to add a task to the Automatic Maintenance that runs each morning. I use Geekzone's EPG collector to fill in the guide on Media Centre and I though it would be nice for it to run as part of Automatic Maintenance rather than wake the computer up again later to do it's thing.
Here's how:
Create an XML files in notepad and paste this in...
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<Task version="1.4" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/windows/2004/02/mit/task">
<RegistrationInfo>
<Date>2013-02-01T19:34:03.9529687</Date>
<Author>johnofe-laptopJohnOfE</Author>
<Description>EPG Loader</Description>
[Code] ....
Save the file then in Task Scheduler, import the XML and it will appear. Edit it from there further if you want.
I got this from exporting a task that runs as part of Automatic Maintenance and edited it to suit.
the thing is, I still don't know how it works! I haven't been able to create a schedules task from scratch that runs as part of Automatic Maintenance.
Other than plagiarising existing tasks to get what I want, how it's really done?
I have what I want, and it works great being able to run all the things I want all at the same time at 3AM each day, as part of Windows' ritual. Even better, if I disable it from waking the computer, everything runs when I'm logged in and Idle. It's fantastic.
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Oct 5, 2013
I'm using Intel Rapid Start function, so my PC is starting from completely off to fully desktop in less than 10 seconds (no POST, no Boot ). But I must each time remember to stop "automatic maintenance", because if it is running when closing with IRS, then it won't start again. I can find the setting to change the time of running "automatic maintenance", but I want to deactivate it for ever!! I will maintaine my PC myself.
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Feb 18, 2014
I have set up scheduled maintenance on my laptop (on Windows 8.1) as:
I have also set up my laptop to go to sleep after an hour of inactivity:
So far, I have found my laptop not asleep everytime I wake up at around 7AM (two times in a row). Here are some "powercfg" outputs:
What should I do?
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Sep 14, 2013
It's scheduled for 3AM, but the computer is powered down then. Does it run the next time it's powered up and idle?
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Apr 6, 2013
I can't run WEI in Windows 8. I've tried to install Media N pack but unfortunately its fail to install!
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May 8, 2013
Is it normal to have the disk at 100% on start up? The only program that are even using any of my disk on start up is system and svchost.
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Jun 2, 2013
I have got myself a new laptop recently with the following specs
It's a HP Pavilion G6 2253SA
Intel Core i5 3210M
Intel HD 4000 Graphics up to 1.6GB shared graphic memory
6GB RAM DDR3 at 1600MHz
1TB HDD 5400RPM
Intel HM76 Chipset
Anyway I have a 64 bit copy of Windows 8 Pro installed and this has been re-installed as I did not want to bother with all the Manufacture software that was not necessary for my system
This next part sounds silly and fussy
Anyway even after reinstallation my ram still does not go up to 6GB as it only peaks at 5.89GB and that 103MB is reserved for hardware
I plan on upgrading it to 8GB of ram however I do not want to upgrade it if all the extra memory is just going to be reserved for hardware
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Mar 11, 2013
The picture below is a picture of my computers information WHILE rendering a 3D-text object. I will diagnose what each picture seperately with what i want in a brief description in it. What i am also trying to do is render videos but it is wanting take over 24 Hours to rendering a 15 second clip.
(CLICK IMAGE TWICE TO ENLARGE)
The bottom photo is a picture of all my specs and what I am running (Windows 8, 64-bit, 8GB Ram, 2.50GHz, ect, ect. My laptop model is a ASUS R500A with Windows 8 pre-installed, clean. This laptop is a month old and only use it for media).
The picture on the left is a photo of my Task manager while its rendering the video. I can see the CPU is going above its limit even though I have not made any modification to my systems settings but the RAM is not being completely used? It also says 5.1GB Available, 3.0/9.1GB commited? (Even though i only have 8GB), and the Page Pool is low as hell when it should be higher? (If im correct)
The picture on the right is a picture of my virtual memory. I have 8GB of ram but the currently located is 1216MB when it recommends 4.5GB? I was thinking about maybe putting this to 4.5GB but im not sure what to set the Initial Size and the Maximum Size values too.
So basically I want to have my computer modified for rendering at the fastest speed possible. I have also gone into the settings and made sure the limited ram thing is off and it was already off.
UPDATE; I figured if my power options are set to power saving it uses less CPU but when i set it to max it uses all the CPU. This does not fix the RAM problem though.
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Nov 23, 2013
yesterday i tried to install a free copy of camtasia 8 the video showed a way so i can register the program free the way suggested was to go to c:/windows/system32/drivers/ect/ then try to change the security properties of the host file and add a states called everyone but isn't work for me so i canceled it, then i get a free user name and serial number from friend and register the program and working properly. I restart may computer lately and its not working , its keep restating i tried refreshing the system but its said my c partition is locked i tried restoring it using troubleshooter but it's not restoring it and tell that no restore point when try to make a one the system response is "system protection is available only in online operating system. auto recovery not working too .
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Jan 20, 2014
setting up ssd and hdd. I have already moved page file on to hdd instead of ssd. What else needs redirecting to hdd. Found a set up guide when installed windows 7 but can't remember what else I did and can't seem to find it now.
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