Maintenance :: How To Prevent Scheduled Defrag From Consolidating Free Space
Jun 4, 2014
It seems that Windows 8.1 Pro's scheduled defrag is consolidating free space, which is taking forever on one of my 2 TB data drives, which has about 300 GB free space. I stopped it at about 9%, and dfrgui immediately showed it as "OK (0% fragmented)". Clicking its Optimize button resulted in the defrag phase completing almost immediately, but then it was back to consolidating free space, starting at 5% this time. According to Task Manager, it's read/writing about 40 MB/sec, and the Active Time is over 90%. I really don't want this to go on for hours and hours and potentially repeat itself during future scheduled scans. Is it possible to alter this behavior, or should I just disable the weekly defrag task?
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Mar 14, 2013
I installed Windows 8 Pro on a GPT partition. I have 234GB of SSD with 87% free space according to Disk Management. I am trying to create a 4GB primary partition for Intel Rapid Start but the Disk Part shows i have no space available in that drive and would not let me create the partition. Why would that be?
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May 18, 2014
I"ve installed windows 8.1 from fresh on a seperate parition on my macbook pro retina 2013 via Apple's bootcamp.
I allocated 40GB which when formatted is 37GB
But now I'm downloading Call of duty on steam which is 14GB however on my hard drive apparently I've only got 5GB left..
Is there a way to free up space or to see what on earth is taking up soo much space..
Ideally I want to buy Battlefield 4 on origin soon but that needs 30 GB space, obviously I'll delete the call of duty game but how can I get all my space back.
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Mar 3, 2013
One of my favorite features of Windows Explorer was that it told me the free disk space in the status bar. Since Windows Vista, you also had the ability to see the free space on hard drives across the network.
Now in Windows 8 you can't even in the least see the free space on the status bar of your own pc, let alone those across the network, and for someone who's constantly moving files across my home network, it's becoming a bit of a hassle.
I don't think there's away to to restore this functionality (already installed the ClassicShell program) so absent of that, is there a free disk space monitoring tool recommended? I'm mainly looking for one that has a system tray function that can tell me the amount of free space I have left, either in percentage form, or megabyte form, or gigabyte form, whatever.
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Mar 21, 2014
I recently installed a new ssd and did a fresh install of windows 8.1 on it. I am now using my old hdd as my main data drive in my laptop caddy. My problem is I did not back up my data on my hdd and format it. So I need to delete the "windows" , "program files" and "program files (x86) " folders from that hdd to free up some space.
I understand I have to give ownership to those folders for me to be able to do delete the folders. I have tired the methods suggested by this guide Take Ownership of a File, Folder, Drive, or Registry Key in Windows 8 I tried both of those commands
(To grant currently logged on user ownership of) takeown /F "full path of folder or drive" /R /D Y (To grant administrators group ownership of) takeown /F "full path of folder or drive" /A /R /D Y and it was succesful, however I still couldn't delete the folders.
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Feb 26, 2014
I have a 500 GB hard drive. The windows partition -60 GB- is running out of free space (only 13 GB is free after cleaning up and so) and the performance is going down . I want to increase the capacity of my C partition without losing data -i mean decreasing the size of the other partition and adding some capacity to C ....
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Feb 4, 2013
I have a 200 gig partition on 1 drive that I have dedicated for games. But now it is filled, and even after shrinking my C drive to make space, I find that I still cannot extend my games partition. I've done a little reading and it appears that the issue is due to the free space not being directly beside the Games partition. I'm not sure, exactly, all I know is, I want to install more games and this technicality is preventing it.
Another thing that makes the situation more complex is that I have 2 other partitions on my drive that belong to Linux Mint. One is the main Mint partition, the other is a swap partition (similar to the page/swap file in Windows). I'm hesitant to try to mess around with moving those partitions since I'm not very experienced with Linux and if it doesnt boot I know I'll just reinstall it instead of trying to fix it. But I would like to avoid that in the first place.
I have tried with Disk Management, EaseUS, Paragon, Partition Wizard and GParted in Linux but they all wont let me make the games partition bigger, only smaller.
What I would like to do is to find a way to add free space to the Games partition, but without deleting other partitions or having to reinstall Linux. And more importantly, figuring out how to handle this kind of thing now so that I wont have issues extending partitions in the future. I also just figured I would say that I've converted the Games partition from primary to logical, due to the limitation of 4 primary partitions on a drive (maybe I'm wrong , but that's what I've heard). I say this because I recently had 4 primaries before trying to install Mint and Ubuntu, and neither of them would let me install. But as soon as I reduced to 3 primaries the issue went away and I was allowed to proceed. I figured that out after a bit of reading.
It is possible to move partitions on a disk so that they will be adjacent (either to the left or right) to another partition that needs to be extended?
I'm also posting a screenshot to make it easier for people to understand. The 36 gig partition is Linux's main partition, and the 15 gig partition to the right of it is Linux's swap partition. The pic also shows that both of those lie between the C drive and my games.
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Jun 10, 2014
My K partition is of 24.3GB and says that only 3.80GB is free.
However in reality, the data inside is worth only 14.3GB which means 10GB should be free, not 3.80GB.
What could be the problem? I have attached the screenshot too.
Even though there are no hidden files in this partition, I enabled 'View Hidden Items'. And the size is indeed 14.3GB only. So I wonder where my remaining 6.20GB is going!
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Jun 11, 2013
I am using Win 8 Pro 64-bit version for the first time.
Previously I had Win 8 Pro 32-bit installed. There was an internal 250 GB SATA HDD connected as a secondary drive. No partitions. It showed me like 150 mb or so free in that.
Today I installed Win 8 64-bit. And when I connected that 250 GB drive as secondary, it showed me around 800 mb free.
My questions is- the extra free space where did it come from? is it due to 64-bit version of the OS installed now?
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Mar 24, 2014
After installing Windows 8 on my main partition C, it is getting nearly full. So, I just have tried to merge some free space from Partition F in Disk Management. But, that doesn't work. Some people tell me that is because the free space is not adjacent to my C partition. I don't know whether it is right. I simply want to extend my C partition successfully.
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Apr 19, 2013
Having a problem with the Regular Maintenance waking the computer (Windows 8 on a Lenovo Q-190) to do its scheduled task as it's supposed to do. Here are the symptoms:
1. If I change the time for Scheduled Maintenance in the Action Center (Change Maintenance Settings), it WILL be reflected properly in the Properties of the Regular Maintenance Task in Task Scheduler.
2. However, if I check the box for "Allow scheduled maintenance to wake up my computer at the scheduled time" in the Action Center (Change Maintenance Settings), it WILL NOT reflect in the Properties of the Regular Maintenance Task in Task Schedular. Specially, I check the box to wake up my computer in the Action Center Maintenance Settings, but the corresponding checkmark is NOT reflected ("Wake the computer to run this task"), in the properties of the actual task in Task Scheduler.
3. I then put the checkmark directly in the Regular Maintenance Task itself ("Wake the computer to run this task"). However, at some point in the future, (not right away; I close and then reopen the task to make sure that it 'sticks'), the checkmark "disappears. Then, the task does not run at night while the computer is asleep, but runs in the morning when I wake the computer for regular use. At that point, the checkmark in the task is gone.
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Jun 21, 2014
I have Automatic Scheduled Maintenance set to run at 3:00AM. I get to this setting by going to Control Panel > Action Center > Maintenance > Change maintenance settings. I also have the box for "Allow scheduled maintenance to wake up my computer" checked.
However, I note that if I put my computer to sleep for a few days, when I wake it back up, Automatic Scheduled Maintenance has NOT run. I can tell this because my antivirus definitions are out-of-date and haven't been updated since I put the computer to sleep.
how to figure why it's not waking up for Scheduled Maintenance? Is it possibly a BIOS setting? Do I have to manually add it to Task Scheduler? I'm running Windows 8.1 Update 1, ASRock Z87E-ITX mobo, Intel i7-4770S CPU, Samsung 840 EVO mSATA SSD, 16GB RAM.
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May 23, 2013
I have a dual boot laptop with Windows 8 and Win7. When I choose to run chkdsk /f from Command Prompt(Admin) on my Windows 8 boot drive, I get the normal message that says disk is in use and to type "Y" to schedule it to run on restart. I type "Y" and hit "Enter", but if I either Restart or Shutdown and turn laptop back on, and choose to boot Windows 8, chkdsk seems to cancel itself. I get the message to "press any key" in 2 seconds if I want to cancel the disk check, but I never press or do anything yet chkdsk seems to cancel itself. When Windows 8 boots I have looked in Event Viewer and there is no sign of any chkdsk or wininit event that says it checked disk for errors.
I have gotten the message in Action Center, to reboot to scan and repair errors which works fine. Right clicking my boot drive, going to the Tools tab and scanning drive for errors also works. My only issue is scheduling to check my boot partition for errors via command prompt.
Must I disable Fast Startup/Hybrid Boot for the scheduled chkdsk to work or something else?
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May 15, 2014
Windows 8 waking & sleeping issues:
This is a backup task I've been using for several years with Windows 7 machines, but only recently started adding to Windows 8.1 boxes. The strange behavior is as follows:
-If the computer is on, the task will start at the scheduled time and do it's thing.
-If the computer is asleep (S3), it will wake up at the scheduled time, but the task never runs??!!
I have attached the XML export of the task ....
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Feb 23, 2014
Almost every morning for the last month or so I will discover my computer is running (monitor off, but computer not in sleep mode as it should be). To figure out what was waking it, I went to cmd prompt and used the command "powercfg -waketimers":
C:WINDOWSsystem32>powercfg -waketimers
Timer set by [SERVICE] DeviceHarddiskVolume1WindowsSystem32svchost.exe (Sys
temEventsBroker) expires at 4:01:43 AM on 2/23/2014.
Reason: Windows will execute 'NT TASKMicrosoftWindowsTaskSchedulerRegular
Maintenance' scheduled task that requested waking the computer. I also tried "powercfg -lastwake":
[code]...
So it appears that "Regular Maintenance" is waking my computer. But why isn't it returning to sleep? It used to.
I then went to Power Options > Edit Plan Settings. These settings are still correct (Put the computer to sleep: 30 minutes).
Next I checked the Task Scheduler. Under "Active Tasks" I found "Regular Maintenance".
Next run time: 3:53 AM tomorrow. That very closely matches the 4:01 AM listed in "powercfg -waketimers", but I find it odd that it is after the scheduled time.
Triggers: At 3:00 AM every day
Doubling clicking on Regular Maintenance provides more detail.
Last Run Time: 5:46 AM
Last Run Result: operation completed successfully
However, another item in here is "Idle Maintenance".
Triggers: when computer is idle
Last Run Time: 5:46 AM
Last Run Result: The process terminated unexpectedly. (0x8007042B)
All of my drive partitions are scheduled to optimize weekly rather than daily. My computer is waking up daily.
Last night I turned all scheduled optimization off. This morning my computer was again woken from it sleep.
The cmd prompt gives me the same reason for the wake (Regular Maintenance).
Task Scheduler shows Regular Maintenance as:
Last Run Time: This morning at 4:36 AM
Last Run Result: The last run of the task was terminated by the user. (0x41306)
Under Idle Maintenance it shows nothing for this morning.
What does this mean? Optimization ran despite me turning it off?
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May 14, 2013
So I tried to open defrag today for the first time with using Windows 8 and when I click on the application the command prompt opens and closes in about two seconds and then nothing happens.
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Aug 3, 2013
Installed 8.1 some 2 weeks ago (give or take).
Now today i wanted to look to my 2 external spindle drives if defrag had run and it did run......BUT also on my Samsung SSD's which i never do myself.
Windows 8 erroneously defrags SSDs, indeed. Doesn't look like it's been fixed in Windows 8.1.
Why Windows 8 defragments your SSD and how you can avoid this.
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Sep 10, 2013
I Defraged my comp to Optimize. After defrag, my mouse and keyboard no longer worked. I tried restarting, unpluging and switching to a wired mouse and keyboard. I can't get the comp to recognize them. I also switched between back and front ports.
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Jan 18, 2013
Do you use the built-in Windows Optimize Drivers (Disk Defrag) or do you use a third party product?
If third party product, which product and why?
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Feb 24, 2014
Windows 8, but I've updated my box to Windows 8.1. I have a 250Gb Truecrypt file as my 'Documents stash' which I mount as a separate drive.
On Win 7 I could defrag this but on 8.1 the drive is greyed out not giving me chance to defrag it.
(See attached screenshots from Win 7 HP & 8.1 Core)
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Mar 23, 2013
I am running Win 8 Pro.
My set up has 2 x 650 GB WD Black hard drives and a Samsung 840 (non pro) for the boot drive.
I have run the latest Samsung Magician, however the BIG problem is that it has stopped the windows 8 Defrag program.
I reinstalled Win 8 and all was OK, (now for the bit about me being thick -- ) I thought I would try the old version of Samsung Magician, and Bu**er me if has not only done the same thing again, turned off defrag and optimize, I am just unable to open defrag in order to defrag my WD drives.
I do not really want to reinstall Windows 8 again unless I have to, so how to switch defrag bag on again.
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Oct 28, 2013
I tried to upgrade to windows 8 through the store and if failed horribly, the pc refused to boot a an error code I that don't remember so I decided to wipe everything and install Windows 8.1 from a usb drive. Everything was fine for the past week and a half until 2 days ago when the disk defragmentation tool decided to stop working, I ran the tool many times after installing 8.1 and it has always worked but now I get a 0x80070057 error which should mean that the size of my partition is wrong. I did a chkdsk /r /f that took 2 hours to complete and it didn't find any errors and I also ran a sfc /scannow with no luck.
Here is a screenshot
After spending some time googling for the issue I found out that there are many Windows 8.1 users with the same issue and on the microsoft forums no one seems to be able to fix this. From what I understand this seems to be related to the size values of the partition which according to the defragger are wrong but the tool was working before and I didn't edit the partition in any way.
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Jul 8, 2014
I'm using Windows 8 Home Premium 64 Bit.
My Disk Defragmenter that came with the system will not open. When I try to open it, a CMD windows appears for 1 second and disappears. I have tried opening it in all ways.
I have tried:
Safe Mode
Sfc /Scannow
Chkdsk
Anti Malware scans
I need something like the answer for this question, only a way to do it in Windows 8. His instructions only work on Windows 7.
Disk Defragmenter won't open in Windows 7
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Jan 10, 2013
im using Windows 8 64bit and every time I try to defrag or optimize it it goes to pass 2.92% and just hangs there for hours before I just give up. also anylize takes forever to complete
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Mar 24, 2013
Whenever I run defrag this happens:
It goes away after about 0.1 second and I can't read what it says (it goes by to fast)
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Oct 27, 2013
I have this wired volume in my defrag screen after windows 8.1 upgrade what the heck is it here is a picture. Highlighted in blue is the volume ??
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Oct 28, 2013
I have a question about Macrium Reflect Free, and dual boot...
I have two installations of Windows 8 (and Windows 8.1), on two separate SSDs. Let's call one SYSTEM1, and the other one SYSTEM2.
Let's say I have booted inside the SYSTEM1 Windows installation. Now I want to backup SYSTEM2, with Macrium Reflect Free. I load Macrium Reflect and select all available partitions on the SYSTEM2 disk (which are just two, the main one and a system-reserved one).
By doing like this, will also the MBR (Master Boot Record) of SYSTEM2 get copied inside the Macrium image-backup? In other words, will Macrium Reflect always copy the master boot record (if available), even if the selected drive is not the one from which Windows is currently running?
Or will the MBR get copied just with the option "create an image of the partition(s) required to backup and restore Windows"? Probably not.
I'm interest about this because it would be useful to do a backup of the MBR (together with the partitions), in case a virus infects it.
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Feb 23, 2013
I have 8 GB machine, 64 bit Windows 8 pro.
Windows 8 instantly uses up 45% after cold boot. There are some startup I know, but when added together there's no way they're taking up that so much space in RAM.
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Feb 1, 2013
I just bought a Seagate ST750LX003 Momentus XT 750 GB as the new primary drive for my gaming laptop, and I'm wondering how to defrag them, and whether it is safe. I wanted the best of both worlds (space and speed) so I went for the middle ground. What is the difference between a regular HDD, SSHD, and a SSD? Do I just let Windows perform its' normal defrag routine as I normally would, or do I need to download some kind of proprietary software from Seagate that will do it? I like to use 3rd party software (UltimateDefrag) for my defrag operations, is all. And how much can I fill it up before it starts to slow down? I ask because I've heard that you cant fill an SSD up past around 50 to 60% or so before it slowly starts to degrade, since it needs room to perform its' TRIM (defrag) operations. Is this also true of SSHDs?
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Dec 17, 2013
EaseUS ToDo Backup Free 6.1 emergency disk won't boot from USB.
That's the long and the short of it. I changed the boot priority in BIOS to boot the USB first. I got it to read the USB key one time when plugged into the USB 2.0 port. While the busy circles were twirling I got a "please wait." Then I got a command prompt flicker, then a screen from Windows saying it did not boot properly.
So I turned off Secure Boot. Made the USB boot stick over again. Now I get nada no matter what. I hold down the power button to shut down. When I power back up it just goes to the regular logon screen.
I was hoping to be able to boot off the stick to avoid buying a 5 pack of CDR just to burn one disc. At least for now to have my system backed up.
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Feb 22, 2013
I am using Windows 8 x64. I have a few software applications and one or two IDE's installed in drive C(system drive where my Windows is installed). Now my C partition is of 68 GB now suddenly I am seeing that almost all the space in drive C has ben used up and I am only left with ~6 GB of free space. Now when I am in drive C and select all the files and folders and check what is the space that it all takes up, the size returned is only 43.3 GB(check the attachment sc_shot1). But when I view C drive from MyComputer I only get ~6GB of free space shown to me(check the attachment sc_shot2). So if all the files and folders in C only take up 43.3 GB where is the rest of the 68.3 - 43.3 =25 GB. Am I being attacked by a virus or worm ?? I am using a licensed copy of QuickHeal Internet Security 2013 and I have scanned drive C with it, it reports no infections. I have also tried using the "cleanmgr" utility and clear up some space by deleting temporary files, but that at max gives me back ~1GB of free space.
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