Setup Installation :: Moving System Partition Between HDDs
Jun 15, 2014
Here is the deal I have 2 hdds (160 gb and 1 tb) late last night used the 1 tb as a flash drive and re installed my OS on the 160 gb drive. The "system" files are on the 1 tb drive and all other files ( boot crash dump etc ) are on the other one.
PROBLEM: while doing a cold start the system fails to spin up th bigger drive in time for the software to detect the system file on the bigger drive and it brings up the boot manager saying files are not present to load, a restart fixes the problem as the bigger drive would be up to speed by then, any work around to delay the boot till both drives are up to speed .........???.
Further i think that moving the "system partition " to the other disk will eliminate this issue ...... how do i go about doing that ... See the image below
QUESTION :if i remove the 1 tb disk physically and reinstall OS and connect it back will everything be as good as new or will it pose problems as then there would be two "system " partitions .....
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Sep 15, 2014
how to move then resize a partition. I have a Dell XPS 12 Win 8.1 system with 7 GPT Primary factory partitions. I cloned the 256 GB mSATA SSD to a 512 GB mSATA SSD.
*** Right now my disk looks like this with (D) empty (no data):
|-OS (C)--|-Data (D)-|-PBR Img-|-None--|-Unallo--|
|-112 GB-|-109 GB--|---6 GB----|-8 GB-|-227 GB-|
|---#5----|-[empty]--|----#6----|--#7---|---------|
I've omitted 4 uninvolved factory partitions, showing only the rightmost 3 factory partitions (#5 #6 #7) and an Unallocated area.
*** My objective--w (D) & Unallocated combined--is this sequence:
|-OS (C)--|-PBR Img-|-None--|-Data (D)-|
|-112 GB-|---6 GB---|-8 GB--|-336 GB--|
|---#5----|----#6----|--#7---|-[empty]--|
I need to know what to do to get this all to happen.According to an expert Dell XPS 12 user, partitions #5, #6, and #7 MUST be contiguous in the last sequence shown, because otherwise a Dell backup program will not work, plus there are other problems.
I'm looking for partition manager how-to details, hoping to simply drag 109 GB (D) over to the right (just left of the 227 GB Unallocated area) then easily make those two a 336 GB (D) drive
My objective sequence HAS been accomplished by the expert Dell XPS 12 user mentioned above who arranged his partitions just like that, although he had different intermediate partition positions and proceeded somewhat differently. He Outlines what he did here:
How to upgrade the SSD in the XPS12 (...whilst avoiding the mistakes I made!) - Laptop General Hardware Forum - Laptop - Dell Community
I've tried partition managers' Resize/Move function with a slider, but exactly how to use the slider to move a partition eludes me.
These partition managers I've tried and have installed now are:
-EaseUS Partition Master 10.1
-Paragon Partition Manager 2014 Free
-MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 8.1.1
(I've also tried its bootable CD that runs under Tiny Core Linux)
Unless I meet my objective above, I can't use my XPS 12 for work, since I need a 512 GB SSD to hold all the existing data I have.
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Because it does not contain enough free space. Clearly I have enough free space... [URL] ....
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I formatted and deleted that partition and I tried again with 201gb, and no luck. [URL] ....
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This is screenshot of disk management ...
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I'm trying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 (and then 8.1) on a laptop with a 240 GB SSD. When I run setup, it loads, but then says Windows can't be installed because there isn't enough free space on the system reserved partition. My reserved partition is only 32 MB (I believe it was shrunk from 100 MB when I swapped the SSD in).
Is there any way I can resize the reserved partition and install Windows 8, or will I need to totally reformat the drive and repartition? Don't want to reinstall all my software .....
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I have a custom PC I built and I was running 8.1 on it. I have to drives a 120gb ssd that had windows on it and I have a 1 TB that had the 350mb system reserved partition and 2 other partitions I had for data and a boatload of free space. I wanted to try and install Linux Ubuntu on the 1tb hard drive. I did a custom install on it because I didn't want it to delete my existing partitions so in the install I made 2 partitions for Ubuntu, after I installed it my 2 data partitions are gone and I don't know what happened with the 350mb system reserved partition.
On that disk now is the 2 Linux partitions and a 150mb partition that I can't tell what it is. But now I can't boot into windows, even when I go from bios. My question is in that system reserved partition is that where the bootmgr is? Because I did nothing with the ssd where windows is and I get a no operating system error when I try to boot off it. How I can fix that disk if the system reserved partition isn't on it.
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Here is the screen shot ...
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I have win 8 pro installed & two HDDs with two partions each , I want to migrate the boot partition to another partition on the second drive .
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So I have Drive
1 - Partitions C: ( boot partition ) & D:
Drive 2 - Partitions E: & F:
I want to remove Drive 1 from my PC so i want to copy C: to E: then remove drive 1 & boot from E:
I tried "Easeus todo backup" , did not work, it does not make the copy bootable , to make it bootale the whole drive has to be copied .
I tried making an image of C: using Windows 8 inbuilt backup feature then removed drive 1 , installed Windows 8 on E: then tried restoring the image of C: but i got some error.
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Is it possible not to have the partition "recovery"?
Because if you look at the two tutorials:
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- UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with
In the tutorial to install Windows 7 in UEFI, there is not that damn partition recovery, while in the tutorial for Windows 8, we can see it.
When I install Windows 7 (MBR mode), I avoid this partition "recovery" by creating a partition with a name before installation. I install the OS on it and everything is fine, no partition "recovery" But here, since one must delete all partitions, If I create a GPT disk with a partitioning tool before installing, is that it might be appropriate?
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Fast forward a few weeks... It's last Friday. I'm about to leave for a business trip. I boot up my laptop and a screen comes up telling me to "reboot and select proper boot device". I pull the SDD out, hook it up to my desktop, and see that the drive shows up, but it's blank. A little googling turned up a few reviews from other people with the same issue. On rare occasion, it will wipe itself. Using the USB recovery drive and the Win 8.1 system image, I got things up and running again.
Now for my question, instead of constantly carrying around the 2 USB drives holding the recovery and system image, can I create a recovery partition on my HDD that I can boot too if my SDD wipes again? (Could I copy or clone my Recovery USB to a partition on my HDD?) Then I could just keep the SSD system image on the HDD in case I need to restore it, right?
Disk 0: SDD disk that wiped itself
Disk 1: HDD that I'd like to have a recovery partition and system image on
I also have: Win 8 OEM system imageWin 8.1 system imageRecovery USB drive (8.1)Win 8.1 USB Install drive
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Pic shows content of Windows8 Drive
Pic shows content of the Windows8 Windows Folder
PDF of the 3 Pics - easy to read detail
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HISTORY
I did the Restore
took 3 hours
but then said Success
Option to Reboot or Shutdown
Chose Reboot
eventualy Booted to a Windows Pale Blue screen with the Cursor half hour later, the Box came up to start the Restore again I did it, same as above time and Result so this time I chose Shut Down Started - Logo for long time then loading Files and back at the Box to Start Restore again
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