Debugging :: Windows 8.1 Random Crashes Without BSOD And Restarts As Normal
May 20, 2014
My Windows 8.1 crashes randomly (almost everyday), without BSOD or Black Screen, and restarts as normal. There are no minidump files created. Vaio fit 13
I've had this Dell XPS for the last 3 years I guess and over the past 4 or 5 months, my computer has been randomly restarting, freezing and now today crashing. Sometimes I'll be on it and it will restart, sometimes I won't even be near it when it restarts. Last week I was on it and my screen went half blue, but I could still see part of my browser but it was frozen. So I just had to cut power. Here is a picture of said incident. [URL] ....
I've also had it freeze and then I come in the room and my tower sounds like a jet engine and I have to turn it off. Then yesterday the blue (as seen above) cascaded down my screen, froze and gave me the BSOD. I've had 3 crashes in less then 24 hours and I'm at a loss as to what to do. I think I have every driver updated, but maybe I'm missing something.
Recently i got my hands on a titanfall beta-key and to play i had to have a 64bit system. I asked my friend to support with the upgrade and everything went fine until my pc started randomly crashing with Memory_management as the most common message. i've had a few others too but mainly this one. I don't understand that my pc keeps crashing because before with my win7 32bit there was never no issue. I tried doing this debug tool thing but it says access denied and the cmd window that opens also says WIN32 so did something go wrong with the installation of win 8 or what?
This is a new system running Windows 8.1. I have been having seemingly random BSOD and crashes. I disconnected a 2T USB backup drive and BSODs have slowed, but not disappeared. BSODs happen most often when waking the system, which seems to take far longer than it should. Error message vary. The most recent was a System Service Exception IRQ_Not_Less_or_Equal.
My crashes are not related to BSODs. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY BSODs AND THUS DO NOT HAVE ANY DUMP FILES.
For about the past month and a half, I've been getting random crashes in Windows 7. My computer suddenly turns off and reboots itself. Just a black screen. Sometimes I don't get a crash for five days, sometimes I get one twice in the same day.
My copy of Windows 7 wasn't genuine. I did a completely clean install of a genuine copy of Windows 8.1 one week ago, just to rule out problems on the OS level. I just got a random restart an hour ago. I only brought over media files from Win7, so I'd say my problem must be hardware related, or something to do with my power socket.
Thoughts? Unfortunately, I can't change sockets easily, as I would have to move my computer into another room for possibly weeks just to see if the problem reoccurred (it's so rare).
The event viewer shows that these crashes coincide with Event ID 41: Kernel-Power. The event data is always blank as follows:
My monitors do not turn off when the computer self-reboots and they are connected to the same surge protector as the computer. Does that pretty much rule out a socket problem?
Things I've tried: 1. Ruled out overheating: my computer is very well cooled. Prime95 can't push any of my CPU's cores past 50C. My CPU runs @ about 35C during heavy gaming and my GPU doesn't seem to get past 40C. 2. Run Prime95 for about 14 hours with no errors. 3. Run Memtest86 to rule out faulty memory. I only did one pass, so I'm guessing I should do more? 4. Unchecked the "automatically restart" option in advanced system properties. It hasn't had any effect. 5. Uninstalled my GPU drivers and updated to the latest ones. 6. Tried to rule out a faulty PSU to no avail. Hardware monitor programs give me crazy voltage readings (8V on my +12V), but voltages seem normal in the BIOS. Should I buy a digital multimeter to test voltages under full load?
I've been experiencing seemingly random BSODs, mostly during gaming but also after gaming or even before doing anything at all.
Sometimes, but much less often, there's been random reboots or crashes without a BSOD.
What I've tried so far. Updated drivers for graphics, network and chipset.Uninstalled Avast, now using Windows DefenderReinstalled WindowsMemtest86+ for all my RAM together, 30 passes, no errorsMemtest86+ for each piece of RAM alone, 70-75 passes each, no errors
All the memory dumps in my archive are from after reinstalling in Windows, before that I also experienced the same kind of issues.
Between the BSOD of Jan 4 and Jan 17 I upgraded my graphics card from MSI 6950 to Sapphire R9 290. Same issues with both cards.
I recently bought a SSD and installed windows 8.1 on it with my old HD unplugged. I started getting these random crashes after I plugged in and reformatted my old HD. Attached is the log dump.
It is just a matter of time before the system crashes. Sometimes I can play a whole evening without a crash, sometimes it crashes every 5 minutes. It does not seem to coincide with what happens in the game and it can be an old game with minimum graphics or something else on max, the crash is the same. As it crashes, screen goes black, it generates a hum on the speakers, and all I can do is to push the power button until it shuts off the power. Another problem is that there is NO dump file whatsoever. Minidump settings are all validated, but no dump gets created. I hope the SF debug Tool is enough.
It only occurred first if and only if I was playing, so I thought it was a compatibility prob so I just quit. But when I played this game Dragon Nest it too BSOD's or just plain PC crash. So I thought ok I cant play these 2 games. BUT when it happened too in Dota2, I think that's too much of a coincidence. Now my PC just random crashes and I really dont know why.
PC specs: Core i3-3240 Geforce GT420 4g ram Windows 8 64bit
So basically my system is crashing at seemingly random points (games, desktop, programs...anytime) even though the system appears to be ok.
I've updated all drivers, ran memtest, even ran prime95 (was oc'ing recently but the crashes were happening before that) and everything checks out.
My rig is as follows: Windows 8.1 ProAsus Crosshair V Formula (latest bios)16gb CMX8GX3M2A2000C9 XMS3 (4x 4GB, running at 2071mhz)AMD HD7970AMD FX8150 (oc'd to 4.2ghz)2x OCZ Agility 3's in Raid0
This crash has happened a few times before the overclock as well as after, previous to installing 8.1 (upgraded from 8) the overclock was running stable for nearly 3 months. I rarely go over 60c and have been able to run prime95 for long periods of time during testing it without problems, as I said the crash happens at stock speeds too! So in short I don't think its related to the OC.
I have windows set to a minidump but when the crash happens I don't get the BSOD screen but rather just a screen in a random colour.
after the Win 8.1 update I started having random crashes. I replaced the memory because one of the error codes led me to think the memory could be bad. That didn't fix anything. It seems to occur once or twice a day randomly. It can happen in a game, on the net or when it's idle. I have done enough research to know that it is probably a driver issue and have even reinstalled Win 8.1 and all new drivers. Before it was crashing twice as much. But even after a clean install I still get the random BSOD. I don't know how to understand the dump files and have been watching posts in here.
Before I start can you tell me if I need to be logged in to the account that has suffered the problem or can I do it from my (admin) account on the same computer? The unexpected_kernel_mode_trap problem has (so far) only occurred on my son's user account.
My pc just started crashing a few days ago. I will try to be brief because guess what you all really need to see is the zip file. I have tried a few things to work with this code 41 kernel and I am not sure what is causing it. I am mostly crashing it seems when I try to use windows features/tools. It cant seem to complete any recovery etc tools before crashing. I have attached this file...
Just got in the mail 2 ssd's and the HD7870 video card along with a copy of windows 8.1 complete (retail). My boot ssd (one I'm trying to install on) is a 60gb Mushkin and the other is the one I was going to put games on the 240gb Mushkin.
So I hooked the 60gb one up and put in my install disk for the 64bit of windows 8.1. It went through the install fine, then it said it needed to restart to complete and when it restarted it gave me the black screen of death. It sat there for over 30 minutes then the screen turned to a yellowish orange.
So I formatted the ssd, reinstalled fresh again. Same thing.
I then tried the 240gb thinking maybe I had a bad ssd. Same thing.
Then I tried an old 500gb Seagate that I knew worked but I formatted it and installed. Same thing.
So back to the 60gb I went, formatted, reinstalled 8.1 then it did the black screen again. So I tried booting over a couple times till it gave me the option to start in safe mode with networking. It started in a black screen with the blue windows logo... and stayed there for an hour.
I then tried the command prompt methods of BOOTREC/FIXMBR, BOOTREC/FIXBOOT, BOOTREC/REBUILDBCD and restarted with same black screen. *after the rebuildbcd, it said copies of windows = 0???*
So I tried to start using the install CD as a recovery drive, it brought up the option to install windows....
I'm not sure how I can get dumps or test stuff if there is no way for me to even get to the actual explorer other than the black screen or the black screen with the blue window logo, or even he more rare black screen with underscore blinking...
A couple of weeks ago my old PSU blew up. It did kind of like a explosion sound and some flashing, very impressive. I inspected the motherboard and I could not find any damage whatsoever. Only the PSU seemed affected.
After that I bought a new PSU (Tacens MP700 - 700W), an aftermarket CPU fan (Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO) and some extra chasis fan to improve air flow and lower the temperature. I plugged everything in, and system started with no apparent issues.
However since a few days ago sometimes my PC restarts without saying anything, some other time it just freezes (very annoying) and some other times it gives me a BSOD with the errors CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT. The frequency of these failures:
- Normal use like browsing, email, programming --> not very often - Playing game like iRacing --> sometimes it freezes - Playing game like PES2014 --> it always freezes, sometimes during the first match, sometimes after a 2-3 of them
After googling it appears is a hardware problem so I wonder if the damn PSU damaged some of my other components. The thing is the original PSU was intended to be for a quiet HTPC but I started to work from home and suddenly became a work station. I should have improved the PSU among with the other components (CPU, memory, etc.) but I did not think it was necessary. Bad decission I guess.
I've monitored temperature and it does not seem to be the issue as using a benchmark software at 100% CPU during 30 minutes temperature does not go over 65C on the CPU (I live in Spain where ambient temperature is around 30) and motherboard never pass 68-70. Right now while browsing temp is 35 for the CPU, 45 for the mobo and graphic, 30 for HDD. Pretty normal I think.
I have also upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 hoping it was a driver issue but not success either.
Find attached the SF report. Added new crash info:
System errors: ============= Error: (07/30/2014 01:38:31 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: ) Description: The AODDriver4.2.0 service failed to start due to the following error: %%3
Error: (07/30/2014 01:36:11 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: ) Description: The AODDriver4.2.0 service failed to start due to the following error: %%3
I've been facing constant problems with BSOD (Ntoskrnl.exe) today. It happened for the first time about a month ago when I tried to update Opera (12.16 -> 17.0) but after many, many restarts, trying to run Windows in a "Safe Mode", restoring recovery points finally Windows started to work. I haven't tried to update Opera since then.
Today... I don't know what happened because I went away of a computer ( it's possible ) for a few minutes and when I came back I saw BSOD with 'DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL' error. I tried to find a solution on the Internet but I still don't know what else to do.
When I run system in a Safe Mode with a 5th option (Safe mode with networking) everything works but when I try to run Windows normally - same situation as previously (reboot)...
I added dump file as an attachment (111313-10140-01.txt).
Please change the extension (txt -> dmp). I wasn't able to upload .dmp file to this forum. The second file (debuglog.txt) was created in a following way:
Type the following: kd z C:Windowsmemory.dmp (or the path to your .dmp file) Type the following: .logopen c:debuglog.txt Type the following: .sympath srv*c:symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols Type the following: .reload;!analyze -v;r;kv;lmnt;.logclose;q
I found above-mentioned steps on Reading a memory.dmp or other .dmp file - Scott Forsyth's Blog The last but not least... About a month ago (when I had the same problems) I run Memtest for a whole night and it found no problems. I haven't tested other hardware yet.
Whenever I put the screen down for the night, or after classes, when I open it up again, it informs me of an automatic restart due to a problem it has encountered with files in the Minidump folder and a Local sysdata.xml file. I have attached the file.
My Sony Vaio Multi-Flip has been causing a lot of pain recently. A couple of months ago, it was making a lot of noise (which apparently came from the fan) but the problem resolved itself and has rarely occurred in the last 2 months. The engineer said at the time, that it was most likely a fan noise (as opposed to the HDD).
However from the last few days, the laptop shuts down out of nowhere (without a blue screen). This happened 5-6 times consecutively the first time, after which I was somehow able to do a system restore to a couple of weeks earlier, to see if it might have been a software issue. That temporarily seemed to fix it, but a few days later the issue is back. It happens every now and then (say once or twice a day). The laptop just shuts down completely in a snap. What might be causing this? I have an important business trip coming up and the last thing I want is for this to happen when I am in a client meeting.
I notice my CPU temperatures are normally between the 55-70 degrees on average usage, so I wonder if replacing/cleaning the fan is the way to go?
Also, every now and then, I hear a "beeping noise" and I notice this is usually when I lift the laptop up or tilt it slightly, while it is still running. This is shown as a critical error in my event log, with error source "Kernel Power" and error description " The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
DM Log collector results attached as SF Doesnt seem to be working for me on Windows 8.1. The greens status bar doesnt go past the "u" of "lunch" text above it despite waiting for ages.
KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE, it happens while i try to play games on Steam and also while watching Youtube videos. Really, it happens a lot while i just do everyday task. I don't know what the problem is but I have the dump files. I did RAM test and I downloaded all drivers; everything is up to date.
PC was running a little sluggish so decided to refresh it! I don't ever remember ever getting a bsod on Windows 8.
However it seems to be a regular thing since the refreshing the pc! it swill crash any anytime for any reason however I have yet to complete a full movie mpeg using the Handbrake software to reencode a movie file it will crash way before it is due to finish I've included the zipped Event log Admin.extv file ...
I have a problem that started yesterday. Every 30 seconds Windows Explorer (not the browser) crashes, then restarts. I run Xmarks within FireFox, I thought this was the problem because Xmarks as of yesterday asks me every 40 seconds if I want to sync my bookmarks, if I choose cancel, Windows Explorer will crash then restart.
When Firefox is closed, Explorer continues to crash and restart, almost every 30-35 seconds. I have Windows 8.1 up to date, with all the latest updates, FireFox is up to date. As of writting this post, Windows Explorer has crashed and restarted (5) times.
I have Windows 8.1 running on my Acer Aspire V3-772G. Windows explorer crashes randomly, and restarts instantly.
Various solutions on the internet are for problems where explorer crashes due to a specific task such as accessing some programs. In my case, it is just random and occurs once in a while.
My Windows 8 machine crashes when resuming from sleep. This used to happen only intermittently, and I assumed it was just a feature of Windows 8 and I put up with it for a while. But now it happens every single time the laptop goes to sleep, and I'm losing lots of unsaved info and it's quite aggravating.
Here is the .zip file created after I ran SF Diagnostic Tool. (attached)
Recently I've experienced random BSOD's in Windows 8. Although my computer know-how is limited at best, I knew it was best to upgraded my pc in steps. The first week I installed a SSD (with a fresh install of Windows 8 on it) and ran without any problems. A week later I installed 16 gigs of (new) ram (with the SSD) and everything ran fine.
The problems started two weeks later. I haven't made any changes to my pc or driver upgrades since then. If I idle in windows everything works fine. The same is true when running Office or browsing the internet. BSOD's occur when:
- Playing games (modern or old), either after 5 minutes or after 3 hours (seems very random but frequent);
- When wathing a HD youtube movie (BSOD's when doing this seem very rare though);
I encounter really frequent bsod crashes (3-6 every day) with various errors on my relatively new notebook - Asus G750JH-T4080H. these include:
INTERRUPT_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED TIMER_OR_DPC_INVALID DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE
Additional info: They mostly occur when in windows, browsing the web using firefox. only very seldom they appear during gaming. i also have to admit that i made recent changes to registry (regarding "The server {9BA05972-F6A8-11CF-A442-00A0C90A8F39} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout." errors in event log/viewer") because of another problem (but the bsods were already there before that changes, but maybe not so frequently).
I just installed the new 8.1 windows updates, 30 minutes later new bsod appeared (uploaded current Diagnostic Tool zip):
Recently on my gaming PC is have been having a completely random 0x0000001e, I really can't understand where it has came from, or what the root cause could be. It is a fairly new install at no more than a month old. I have not added any new internal hardware or anything like that, so what could be the cause for this random error? I have attached my logs to the main thread.