Debugging :: Random BSODs / Sometimes Crashes Or Reboots Without BSOD
Jan 23, 2014
I've been experiencing seemingly random BSODs, mostly during gaming but also after gaming or even before doing anything at all.
Sometimes, but much less often, there's been random reboots or crashes without a BSOD.
What I've tried so far. Updated drivers for graphics, network and chipset.Uninstalled Avast, now using Windows DefenderReinstalled WindowsMemtest86+ for all my RAM together, 30 passes, no errorsMemtest86+ for each piece of RAM alone, 70-75 passes each, no errors
All the memory dumps in my archive are from after reinstalling in Windows, before that I also experienced the same kind of issues.
Between the BSOD of Jan 4 and Jan 17 I upgraded my graphics card from MSI 6950 to Sapphire R9 290. Same issues with both cards.
This is a new system running Windows 8.1. I have been having seemingly random BSOD and crashes. I disconnected a 2T USB backup drive and BSODs have slowed, but not disappeared. BSODs happen most often when waking the system, which seems to take far longer than it should. Error message vary. The most recent was a System Service Exception IRQ_Not_Less_or_Equal.
My crashes are not related to BSODs. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY BSODs AND THUS DO NOT HAVE ANY DUMP FILES.
For about the past month and a half, I've been getting random crashes in Windows 7. My computer suddenly turns off and reboots itself. Just a black screen. Sometimes I don't get a crash for five days, sometimes I get one twice in the same day.
My copy of Windows 7 wasn't genuine. I did a completely clean install of a genuine copy of Windows 8.1 one week ago, just to rule out problems on the OS level. I just got a random restart an hour ago. I only brought over media files from Win7, so I'd say my problem must be hardware related, or something to do with my power socket.
Thoughts? Unfortunately, I can't change sockets easily, as I would have to move my computer into another room for possibly weeks just to see if the problem reoccurred (it's so rare).
The event viewer shows that these crashes coincide with Event ID 41: Kernel-Power. The event data is always blank as follows:
Things I've tried: 1. Ruled out overheating: my computer is very well cooled. Prime95 can't push any of my CPU's cores past 50C. My CPU runs @ about 35C during heavy gaming and my GPU doesn't seem to get past 40C. 2. Run Prime95 for about 14 hours with no errors. 3. Run Memtest86 to rule out faulty memory. I only did one pass, so I'm guessing I should do more? 4. Unchecked the "automatically restart" option in advanced system properties. It hasn't had any effect. 5. Uninstalled my GPU drivers and updated to the latest ones. 6. Tried to rule out a faulty PSU to no avail. Hardware monitor programs give me crazy voltage readings (8V on my +12V), but voltages seem normal in the BIOS. Should I buy a digital multimeter to test voltages under full load?
It is just a matter of time before the system crashes. Sometimes I can play a whole evening without a crash, sometimes it crashes every 5 minutes. It does not seem to coincide with what happens in the game and it can be an old game with minimum graphics or something else on max, the crash is the same. As it crashes, screen goes black, it generates a hum on the speakers, and all I can do is to push the power button until it shuts off the power. Another problem is that there is NO dump file whatsoever. Minidump settings are all validated, but no dump gets created. I hope the SF debug Tool is enough.
It only occurred first if and only if I was playing, so I thought it was a compatibility prob so I just quit. But when I played this game Dragon Nest it too BSOD's or just plain PC crash. So I thought ok I cant play these 2 games. BUT when it happened too in Dota2, I think that's too much of a coincidence. Now my PC just random crashes and I really dont know why.
PC specs: Core i3-3240 Geforce GT420 4g ram Windows 8 64bit
So basically my system is crashing at seemingly random points (games, desktop, programs...anytime) even though the system appears to be ok.
I've updated all drivers, ran memtest, even ran prime95 (was oc'ing recently but the crashes were happening before that) and everything checks out.
My rig is as follows: Windows 8.1 ProAsus Crosshair V Formula (latest bios)16gb CMX8GX3M2A2000C9 XMS3 (4x 4GB, running at 2071mhz)AMD HD7970AMD FX8150 (oc'd to 4.2ghz)2x OCZ Agility 3's in Raid0
This crash has happened a few times before the overclock as well as after, previous to installing 8.1 (upgraded from 8) the overclock was running stable for nearly 3 months. I rarely go over 60c and have been able to run prime95 for long periods of time during testing it without problems, as I said the crash happens at stock speeds too! So in short I don't think its related to the OC.
I have windows set to a minidump but when the crash happens I don't get the BSOD screen but rather just a screen in a random colour.
Recently i got my hands on a titanfall beta-key and to play i had to have a 64bit system. I asked my friend to support with the upgrade and everything went fine until my pc started randomly crashing with Memory_management as the most common message. i've had a few others too but mainly this one. I don't understand that my pc keeps crashing because before with my win7 32bit there was never no issue. I tried doing this debug tool thing but it says access denied and the cmd window that opens also says WIN32 so did something go wrong with the installation of win 8 or what?
Computer specs: Motherboard: Gigabyte z77x-ud3h i7 3770k, never overclocked running stock 16GB crucial ballistix 4x4GB EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX570 HD Antec high current 750w gamer PSU
Problem: My computer crashes randomly, sometimes while I'm working, sometimes while I'm away from the computer, there doesn't seem to be a pattern. Oddly enough, windows 8.0 ran just fine and never crashed. Windows 8.1 seems to crash much more frequently, and either blue screen or just lock up and reboot with no blue screen.
Suspected potential problem: When upgrading to windows 8.1, in order to get my very old cisco VPN client working, I had to install a citrix DNE (deterministic network) driver. I'm guessing it could be related to this and the old cisco client, though I have unchecked DNE on the network adapter and I have still had crashes, even with it unchecked/disabled in theory.
I'm getting quite regular BSODs and crashes, previously I was getting crashes from AMD 14.7 beta drives so I swapped down to the 14.4 drivers. Now I'm not getting BSODs from atikmdag.sys, but I'm getting BSODs from what looks like ntoskrnl.exe. Additionally sometimes my computer will freeze, the display will show a static image, and the computer won't respond to keyboard/mouse input. Sounds can be heard to play as normal indefinitely (I haven't left it for more than a minute so not sure how long it would continue). This suggests to me that it's a display driver problem.
Here's the list of BSODs as shown by BlueScreenView:
Highlighted in blue are the crashes before changing drivers.
This is my dxdiag, I'm running an A10-7850k, 8gb corsair vengence pro 2400mhz, fm2a88x-itx+ and an 840 evo ssd.
I can upload any requested dump files or information.
I couldn't use SF diagnostic tool because I don't have .NET framework 3.5 installed, and when trying to install it I got error code 0x800F0906, and following all of MS's instructions failed (could still connected to update server, just not for .NET 3.5, using install media failed probably because 8 is different to 8.1).
This is what BlueScreenView calls a "minidump" (this is for the most recent crash shown above. I'm not sure if this is any different from what SF Debug collects).
I've got a small BSOD problem with my Windows 8.1 x64 installation. An hour ago my computer crashed while I wasnt near it (it only heard the restart peep). The last time it crashed I was able to note the error message, which stated:
After googeling a bit I found out, that the BSOD might be caused by bad drivers, so I enabled the Driver Verifier (following this instructions). I hope the crash dump mentioned in the driver verifier HowTo is included within the .zip. I've found another dump file under C:WindowsMEMORY.DMP but thats about 450MB, so I probably cant upload it here. So I copied the text with WinDbg x64 and put it here: Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.3.9600.17029 AMD64 Copyright (c) Mic - Pastebin.com
After having a crash with the verifier active I dont know what to do now
My system - Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 - CPU: Intel i5-4460 - GPU: nVIDIA Geforce 8800 GT - 8GB RAM - Win 8.1 x64 (with all updates)
I bought a new custom built PC from EveTech around 2 months ago for $1900.00. I installed windows 8.1 on it, and have just been receiving ENDLESS BSODs. At first I found out that Windows 8.1 does have issues with BSOD, so I installed Windows 8, hoping this would have been the solution.
I started doing some investigations on how to read BSODs, and initially I thought it was because of outdated drivers, bad memory etc, because all the posts that I read said that this is MOSTLY the cause of BSODs. I installed every program under the sun to search my drivers, and all stated that everything is updated...
Going further in the investigations, I thought it was because of overclocked CPU and GPU hardware, but even after resetting it back to factory default, I am still having this issue.
The absolute worst part of this, is that the BSODs are never the same - they are constantly throwing a new .sys file stating that "this is the problem".
I get frequent BSODs, AMD driver crashes, screen display errors, game crashes, running Windows 8.1 on my AMD A10-5700 APU w/ 8GB RAM. Videos in browsers (firefox, IE, and/or chrome) are common culprits, as are running certain games (recently, GTA IV). Sometimes the BSODs and driver crashes are repeatable (loading certain games or certain web sites). As far as I know, this has happened since day 1 with this computer (refurb from Lenovo), though the frequency waxes and wanes.
Can sometimes make games work better by reducing graphics settings.
Have tried refreshing windows; the ~30 .dmp files in the diagnostic report are since I did that, less than a month ago.
Have tried removing and reinstalling AMD catalyst drivers.
Have tried removing RAM sticks one at a time, but still get the same problems. Windows Memory Diagnostic did not detect any errors.
Previously with win7, I had a Windows 8 dually installed. Back then, I used to get the first error only, very frequently, and only in Windows 8. I had ignored them because I had Windows 8 installed only for testing purposes, and I thought they would go away. But now, they just keep popping up, with the reference by pointer error popping up 4 damn times in a row. And may I also add just how slow my PC gets before a BSOD?
I've tried looking them up, but the solutions seem to involve the removal of different drivers. So I thought of just creating a new thread instead. I have a few games installed and I do overclock my pc sometimes, but the recent BSOD (irql) took place when I was watching a video on youtube. I am attaching the SF grab and a bluescreenview report (the 5th error in it is the dpc watchdog violation).
This might be completely irrelevant, but I'll mention it anyway. The previous Windows 8 is still installed. I tried deleting it from msconfig, and was successful, but the files are still there and it seems to be the 'system partition' right now. See my previous thread for more info.
Happened again. Uploading SF grab with bluescreenview report.
Happened a few more times. I'm trying to keep the logs updated. Another thing; my PC now seems to be very slow and sometimes when a crash occurs, all the online accounts I'm logged into (Facebook, Eight Forums, etc.) automatically logout. This was also the case in my earlier Windows 8 installation. And the latest crash appears to be of a different driver.
What I've already tested: 1) Disks full scanned in HD Tune (no problem). About SMART: Samsung shows warning state in C7, but other programs don't see any problem. It shows 1348 and had not increased. 2) RAM tested separately for 3,5 and 7 hours - no errors. But it showed strange timings (19-15-15-31) when bios and CPU-Z says correct: 9-9-9-24 3) PSU tested with multimeter. Voltages are same in idle and stress: 5 V: 5,20-5,23, 12 V: 12,10-12,15, 3,3 V: 3,35-3,39. They were changing continuously between the varies, don't know if it's correct. 4) Temperatures are OK 5) No OC 6) 10 min Furmark - no problems
BSoD info: 1st: PC was quite idle - I left it for download games on Origin and Steam 2nd: computer was idle, maybe chrome and instant messenger on but I didn't use the PC 3rd: It was at the end or even after the origin finished downloading a update and when watching flash player video
I did a fresh install hoping that it would get rid of my BSODs which were numerous. So far, I only have 5 BSODs that I have had the patience to allow Windows to get to 100% on. I easily BSOD once a day, most are with MEMORY_MANAGEMENT or IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
I have run memtest86+ ad nauseum with no errors, as well as Prime 95 for over 24 hours, I am stable and these are not temperature errors (30c idle, 71c at load).
I've tried lots of different driver updates across everything to solve these BSOD errors and at many times had thought I'd solved them only to crash later. They *mostly* occur during gaming, but a couple times have just been while browsing the web.
I've uploaded the required .zip according to instructions and here's a screenshot of Speccy, showing my system specs:
I have been experiencing bluescreens with increasing regularity. I've made sure all of my drivers are up to date. I've run dskchk, and done the windows memory test, neither of which have come up with anything. I am at a loss of where to go from here as these dmp files make no sense to me. I've attached the .zip from the sf diagnostic tool.
System: OS: Windows 8.1 Pro CPU: Amd fx-8350 stock-clocked cooled with coolermaster hyper212 evo GPU: Asus Direct CUII Gtx760 Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990fx BIOS version 1604 RAM: 8GB 2x4 gskill Ripjaws 1600Mhz Boot Drive: Ocz Agility 3 120GB PSU: Ocz Fatality 750watt
I needed Windows again and decided to try it once again and immediatly got random BSOD again, right after a fresh installation and even after getting all updates and all the newest device drivers. Being within warranty I handed the notebook in to an authorized service partner. Disappointed I switched back to Linux and never had the time to investigate the problems any further. I also installed Windows 8 and the problems persisted.
Now I decided to investigate any further and decided to install Windows 8.1. From the beginning and also after upgrading to the newest available device drivers I'm experiencing the following BSOD.
Just a screenshot from BlueScreenView:
Attached you find the results of SF Diagnostic Tool. I also get some other instabilities, like crashing System Services, as shown in Event Viewer screenshot:
I did some memory tests, several with different versions of MEMTEST86+ and one over 48 hours with Windows Memory Diagnostic. I also ran Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool and got no errors.Assuming failing device drivers I enabled Driver Verifier as described in the forum (only mentioned tests and non-MS-drivers) and oddly I experienced only 1 BSOD during about 48 hours of operation with activated driver verifier (but unfortunately nothing driver specific). Normally I get at least 2 BSOD a day.
I've a problem with my computer. From a few day i expect a random BSOD on my computer. I don't have do nothing like hardware modify or software upgrade but the problem still persist.
Today I've try to reinstall my OS (Windows 8.1 Update 1) but the problem still persist. Try again without install any driver, but only following Windows Update and the problem appear again. I've 2 MiniDump and a FullDump ...
I got a new Dell XPS 8700 a few days ago, and have been getting pretty random BSODs always containing ntoskrnl.exe as the cause on my blue screen viewer. They tend to happen sometimes in game, on game closing and once on start-up. Some games I can play for hours and no blue screen some I play for a while and I get one. I've tested all my RAM and my HDD for bad sectors and errors.
I have uploaded my dump files and system info
UPDATE: I'm not 100% positive but it seems like these BSODs only happen on games that have access to an internet connection. It has never happened on games that are single player only.
I have bought my Acer laptop about 6 weeks ago and immediately updated to windows 8.1 (it had preinstalled windows 8). So after doing that I got first BSOD in two or three days. Because I thought I did something wrong during the update or when installing some of my applications, I decided to refresh my computer to factory settings after getting a couple of more BSOD's. So I did a factory reset and updated to windows 8.1 according to the instructions by Acer. Everything went great except for one thing. After a couple of days, BSOD's began repeating again. So I decided to update all of my drivers and uninstall McAfee internet suite. Nothing worked.
I finally decided to do another factory reset, but this time to stay on Windows 8 and run only basic software for couple of days and then begin to install some of additional applications. Everything went fine, but after two weeks without crash, it happened again. And it happened random, so I didn't keep in mind which software was last installed. So that first one on Windows 8 happened on March 19th, and second one happened today.
Both of them were driver_irql_not_less_or_equal with ntoskrnl.exe
I don't know anymore what to do... I'm including .zip file in attachments for further analysis.
I've been getting BSODs a few times a day when I'm not plugged into an external monitor. Sometimes I'll get an artifacted screen or just a random restart. I thought it might be an overheating issue so I took apart my computer and cleaned all the dust out. While it worked for temperatures a little, it didn't solve any of the restarting problems. The max temperature range has been similar (around 64-67~ degrees C under load) but the min and average has been a little better. (47 and low to mid 50s respectively)
The main filenames that have come up in the BSODs have been ntoskrnl.exeintelppm.sys
My problems started on 8, so I did a fresh reinstall of Windows, updated to 8.1 and reinstalled all the newest driversI kept having problems so I uninstalled the newest processor driver from Intel and used the one that HP suggested. If anything the BSODs have been more frequent.I've done the standard diagnostic tests in the HP PC Hardware Diagnostics (UEFI) tool without any errors although twice after my computer has been having rebooting fits it has frozen up before I even got to the tests.I've done Intel's Processor Diagnosis Tool a few times and have passed everything at load level 8. It says my temperature is 35 degrees C below maximum.
Things I haven't done
Memtest for any extended length of timeAnything y'all can come up with
I've attached the output the SF Diagnostic Tool is giving me.
edit:and if it's not a driver issue, I'm hoping it's a memory one. Since the Intel HD 3000 would share system RAM, if the system RAM was faulty that could be a reason why my computer
1) freezes outside of windows on occasion,
2)artifacts w/ a frozen system,
I'm not sure why it would change when I plug a monitor in through HDMI though. I don't know if or how the HD3000 would handle an external monitor any differently.
I have problems with BSODs and computer unexpected power loose. Even in idle mode computer cxan restart itself. When I go to the sleep mode and wake it up I have always mutiple bsods at the windows startup. After few resets it starting up correctly and then sometimes (sometimes not) rebooted in second.
In my computer there is minimal hardware connected:
I've had a mild BSOD (mostly page_fault_in_nonpaged_area and rarely irql_not_less_or_equal) problem since I built my computer (3 years now) but after trying to figure out what caused them and finding nothing I just gave up and dealt with them. Recently I reinstalled Windows and went from Win 7 to Win 8. I formatted everything and apparently it is not a virus or software problem. The reason I dealt with them was because they weren't coming up as often as they do now. They are so frequent I can't work or do anything anymore.
After browsing a few forums I learned it might be a memory error. So I tried removing the RAM sticks and shuffling them around the slots. I ran memtest86+ for around 12 hours (making 10 passes) and it found nothing.
I also read it might be the hard disk's fault. I tried unplugging every one of them (besides the one with the system) and ran CHKDSK and nothing.
They appear completely at random; closing or opening Windows, surfing the net, browsing data on disks, etc. I am completely lost.