Maintenance :: Fans Still Running After Shutdown Of Windows 8
Oct 29, 2012
I'm running into a really annoying issue after upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8.
I first noticed it during the initial (clean) install; when the installer tried to reboot, my machine (an acer aspire 4755G) just hung after the initial shutdown. That is, after the screen turns off, the power lights and fans are still running, and the machine itself doesn't restart. (I let it sit for a good 15 minutes, and it still didn't change).
I managed to do a hard reset (power button for 5 seconds) and the install finished, but every shutdown/restart has been like that. Interestingly enough, hibernate works just fine.
I've looked at other solutions where it said to use the "bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes" command, and that didn't work.
I also turned off the "Fast Boot" option in the power settings menu. That didn't work either. So far, the only option is to do the hard shut down by holding down the power button, but that proves to be horribly inconvenient.
I've also updated all my drivers to the proprietary onces given by Acer, yet this problem still persists! It worked fine on Windows 7, so I'm not sure what went wrong here.
I purchased my HP laptop back in 2009. It came installed with Windows 7. It has an Intel quad-core processor and 8 gigs of RAM. I upgraded to Windows 8.1, and since then my laptop's fan has been running high and hot constantly. It did not behave this way before I upgraded the OS. The fan usually acts up when I have 2 or more things running on the laptop.
First let me say, I rarely leave my 8.1 system running all night as I generally switch off before bed.
On the FEW occasions I leave the system running all night I always get the "Your computer is low on memory" warning.
For instance, yesterday my software RAID mirror was "Re-synchronizing" and I wanted it to complete syncing so I left it running. NOTHING was running except Disk Manager. I closed down everything else. No browser, no Skype, no directory utility, no paint, no uTorrent....
Sure enough when I woke up this morning there it was....
A few days ago I wanted a couple of torrents to keep downloading so I kept the desktop running. Again NOTHING else was running and in the morning there it was....
I have 16Gb of memory and my pagefile.sys is 42Gb. My OS disc is a 250Gb SSD. I have set my system to hibernate after 5 hours idle. I have set the screen/display to sleep after 30 minutes.
The system isn't asleep when I wake as moving the mouse immediately brings the display back on line. Checking Task Manager shows NO memory hogs.
What I suspect is after 5 hours the hibernation process denies access to memory requests or something?
The strange thing is millions of people on 8.1 must leave their systems running all night but I have seen no mention of this behaviour.
Every now and then when I shut down my computer it will show "Restarting" for about 1-5 seconds (My pc is fast) and the display will shut off. But the computer will still be running, the HDD and all are running. I have to do a hard shutdown by holding the power button.
I have found this in the event logger:
"The system firmware has changed the processor's memory type range registers (MTRRs) across a sleep state transition (S5). This can result in reduced resume performance."
Source: Kernel-Power
I heard it having something to do with "fast startup" or "Quick Boot" I am unsure.
About 3 times now this has happened, I'll shutdown my PC using the tile target "C:WindowsSystem32shutdown.exe -s -t 00" and usually there is a delay in between shutting down and it randomly booting itself which makes it really weird that it isn't just an instant restart instead of shutdown. It's not a very long delay really, maybe 1-2 minutes.
The last two times I remember it was around 3:00 AM which is when it was set in Action Center Maintenance Settings to wake up the computer and run the scan. The thing is, I unchecked it from Maintenance Settings Friday night and it still happened last night (and it was kind of weird last night with daylight savings and all..) also, does the "wake up" to scan boot a completely shut down computer or just one idle/asleep?
After searching on this forum there seems to be some issues with Avast 2014 and boot issues. My 8.1 doesn't have any slow booting issues but perhaps it's related that this is the anti-virus I run.
I checked the Event Viewer Log and selected Power-Troubleshooter but I didn't see an event for the past two nights. powercfg lastwake command displays "Wake History Count - 0"
I never encountered this issue with Windows 7 or Windows 8 so it's hard to imagine it could be BIOS related?
My system has been on completely since 8.1 and has never needed to restart until I did some updates today.
Now I'm not really concerned about shutdown or restart as I will manually shut down the PC if I'm going somewhere for an extended time "I never leave anything on, power for the entire house is shut off" and will shut it off until I get back.
But the slow login is really killing me as it used to take 1 second to hear that little "tick" from the speakers and I'd see the login/splash page, but as of today I will hear that "tick" but the windows dotted circle will spin for oh.. 30 seconds than I can see my splash screen.
I've scanned my C: and D: disks, ran defender, antivirus, etc and all came back fine and I even have 90GB free out of my 120gb drive.
I do a shutdown from the Windows Logon screen which I believe is a full power off rather than a hybrid shutdown:
(The process C:WINDOWSsystem32winlogon.exe (XXXXX) has initiated the power off of computer XXXX on behalf of user NT AUTHORITYSYSTEM for the following reason: No title for this reason could be found Reason Code: 0x500ff Shut-down Type: power off)
However when I restart the computer it then goes into a black screen with a pointer and never completes reboot.
The only way to fix this is to reboot again which I am guessing is using the "Hybrid Boot" profile:
"The last shutdown's success status was false. The last boot's success status was true."
I am running Windows 8.1 preview and whenever I play certain games my monitor locks up and my GPU fans stop and the only way for it to work is by restarting my PC. I don't think my card is defective because I was able to run the game once until it crashed. I am running on 32 bit if that makes any difference. And I don't believe it overheats because I keep MSI Afterburner running the whole time. This also happened on Windows 7 32 bit.
I'm looking for a way to automatically shutdown PC at midnight and turn it back on at 16h during work days (while I'm at work). Is there a way to do that in the built-in scheduler or is there an app for that?
I have Automatic Scheduled Maintenance set to run at 3:00AM. I get to this setting by going to Control Panel > Action Center > Maintenance > Change maintenance settings. I also have the box for "Allow scheduled maintenance to wake up my computer" checked.
However, I note that if I put my computer to sleep for a few days, when I wake it back up, Automatic Scheduled Maintenance has NOT run. I can tell this because my antivirus definitions are out-of-date and haven't been updated since I put the computer to sleep.
how to figure why it's not waking up for Scheduled Maintenance? Is it possibly a BIOS setting? Do I have to manually add it to Task Scheduler? I'm running Windows 8.1 Update 1, ASRock Z87E-ITX mobo, Intel i7-4770S CPU, Samsung 840 EVO mSATA SSD, 16GB RAM.
I have been running Win 8 on my ASUS Q200E Laptop and have been puzzled by the difference in the startup times between a cold, power off start up and a restart startup. On a cold startup, the desktop is completely ready to use in about 20 seconds. With a restart, it takes about 38 seconds to get to the same point.
My computer startup was fine but shutting it down or restart it are extremely slow until it takes nearly 5-10 minutes to do so. Any hint for me to solve this issue?
I have a new ASUS ET2702IGTH with 8 to 8.1.1. I have noticed some strange behavior when using the Winkey+X menu to shutdown or sleep the unit. If I use the power button on the Start Page, it operates correctly.
After testing I have realized however the system is requested to enter sleep results in a Shutdown, after about 2 or 3 minutes, when an APP such as Bing Weather is open. This means open with an icon on the Taskbar . If it is only partially open, with the Task Manger showing the app, the system will not shutdown or sleep.
But using the Winkey menu, a Shutdown results in a shutdown, but takes several minutes. If I select Sleep, the unit shuts down. Since it appears there must be some difference in the command issued by the different power buttons, how to compare the two options to see what might be going on?
I do not know if this situation might introduce some type of problem on a system, but since the behavior is different, the system might be left in an unusual condition.
I have not tried the options from the Charms bar. McAfee is currently on this system since it was part of the bloatware. Possibly its behavior is different for the two shutdown options.
When I start up, log off, or shut down my PC, (Just upgraded to windows 8 pro a few days ago from windows 7 pro) I get a black screen for 30 seconds to a minute. The screen is back lit, and windows 8 still functions 100% afterward. I have updated all drivers.
Over a month ago, I noticed that my system had started to become very slow, taking a long time to switch between apps, or between tabs in Chrome (even with only a few tabs open).
I've constantly had Resource Monitor open to try and track down the source of the problem. Initially, I thought this was a problem with Chrome or my pagefile, because Chrome was often at/near the top of Disk Activity, manipulating pagefile.sys. However, it seems like the amount of data being manipulated isn't very large; typically well below 1 MB/sec. I tried moving my pagefile to a secondary hard drive to no effect.
I've downloaded and run multiple programs to check hard drive health, and none of them have found any problems. I'm not talking about simple S.M.A.R.T. diagnostics, but in-depth scans.
Thinking that it might be a problem with Windows 7 at the time, I wiped the drive and installed Windows 8.1. I installed the latest motherboard drivers and disabled Windows search and file indexing. The problem remains. The fact that the problem persists after wiping the drive had me thinking it's likely a hardware problem. Alas, various hard drive scanners haven't found a problem.
I have 8GB of memory; rarely is more than 4GB ever in use. Both of my hard drives have plenty of free space (400+ GB each).
I have a laptop running Windows 8.1 and the start up has become very slow. Glary Utilities tells me it took 2m39s and only 1% of users are slower. I've tried cleaning it with CCleaner and Glary, removing unnecessary start up items and defragging.
After around 5 minutes of my system sitting idle, MsMpEng.exe kicks in running about 50% CPU and keeps running until I start using my laptop again. How to stop it doing it.
I am using windows 8 on my laptop (samsung np550p5c-s03). The task manager shows memory usage around 70% (5.6 GB of 7.9 GB) even when I have no apps running.
A couple of days ago, my HP Pavilion g7-2233cl laptop, running Windows 8, started looping at startup. I shot a brief video showing a few loops and posted it on YouTube: [URL] ....
Because of the looping, I am unable to input any commands through my keyboard or mouse once the looping starts. So, for example, I cannot get to Control Panel.
I was, however, able to click on Escape during a startup and run a hardware diagnostic. No hardware problems were found.
Sometimes, after looping for quite a while, the computer freezes up. It stops looping but then won't let me do anything else either.
This problem does NOT seem the same as the "Automatic Repair" issue I have seen described on YouTube. By the way, I also have Windows 8 running on a desktop computer.
I have a Lenovo Z580 running Windows 8 on a 256 GB SSD, which was cloned from the original drive using Paragon cloning software. I got the computer up and running about a month ago, and I started personalizing it by installing programs and such. At the beginning of today, I probably had around 25 GBs left of storage, which may not seem like much but it will last me until I need to be done with this computer.
Today I went to download a 5 GB zipped folder used to install MATLAB via a licensed, legit website (student license). I check after it downloads and I have roughly 20 GB left on my disk. Note that every other program I have installed has had no trouble with Windows 8 (including Mathematica), so I assumed MATLAB wouldn't either. I hit the setup button, and nothing seems to come up. I hit it again and this time it says something like "not allowed to create destination." So then I tried cutting and pasting it to the desktop, but there was some error with that too. I tried to use the setup application in other ways, and it still didn't work.
I then checked my free disk space and I had 100 MB of free space left. Uhm WHAT?! What the hell just happened?! I search through pretty much ALL my file folders to see what was newly written and see if I could find a TWENTY GIGABYTE folder that was created today. I couldn't find anything. What I think happened was that the setup application unpacked a bunch of files from the compressed folder SOMEWHERE on my disk, EACH TIME I hit setup. THEN it would hit a snag, for some reason, and stop the setup, and NOT delete the temporary files.
SO my next step was to use the "Disk Cleanup" option, to see if the theoretical temporary files could be deleted that way. It gets to the list and I discover that the "Temporary files" option is an INCREDIBLE 98.6 GB size. UHM WHAT?! How is it possible that my OS thinks it can safely delete nearly 100 GBs of data off my 256 GB hard drive?! What is it deleting exactly? Let's assume that 20 GB was in there; that still means it's deleting almost 80 GBs. I couldn't believe that. So obviously I haven't deleted that yet, because I fear that it thinks some of my programs, or maybe even the OS itself, is a bunch of temporary files. I don't even know. I do have a 30 GB recovery partition, so maybe that 30 is included in that, but EVEN THEN 50 GBs is a TON to be in temporary files.
My question: is there any way to check what will be deleted in the option "Temporary files" and why is my temporary files 38% of my entire drive? Also, what happened with the 20 GBs?
I labelled it urgent because I need to install MATLAB to use it for HW, but I can't. Well I think I can find another way to use it, however I still need this problem fixed ASAP because I need space on my computer to do stuff in general.
I have had some issues with my laptop running very hot even when it's not used. I figured out that it was because of my cpu running at around 80% all the time. This of course, is causing a cpu idle temp of around 65c and a quickly depleted battery.
The computer (a Sony VAIO SVS1513C5E) have two modes (Stamina and speed) that switches between silence mode (low effect and integrated graphics) and high performance mode (hybrid graphics, high performance). CPU temp is at 65c when running in 'silence' mode (can't say that it is very silent, given the fanspeed to cool down the computer). High performance increases this to 75c (still idling!), and increases the fan volume by quite a lot.
I did scan it with windows defender, without anything coming up. I am also running process explorer at the moment, it says that system is using ~20% cpu, services.exe a tad above 20% and around 20% idle. The rest of the processes are using a total of around 2-3%, leaving 37% (?). The 20% from services.exe seems to be mostly svchost and some intel bluethoot driver (that I will be uninstalling, as I dont use bluethoot anyways).
I have an ASUS Vivotab running Windows 8. I am seeing that the service process hits 100% disk usage from roughly 4:58PM - 5:04PM daily. I've made sure that my antivirus is't downloading updates or running during that time, same with Windows Update, Live Update, etc. How can I find what specific process is running during that time that is killing the machine given I know when to watch for it?
I've updated my laptop's OS to Windows 8 64-bit a couple of days ago and I quickly noticed that there was a rather annoying issue with performance. It lags every 5-10 seconds, but this seems to happen only when I open Firefox or any other Web Browser and this slows down the whole computer unless I restart it again. My Laptop used to run Windows 7 very well. I also updated to Windows 8.1 yesterday but the problem is still unsolved. By the way I have 4GB of RAM but the system recognizes only 2.
I have an issue that has been happening since last week i think. The problem is that even with the computer in idle the disk usage has these spikes. When i want to play a simple .mp4 file it freezes several times and the all computer freezes when the spikes reach 100 %. I don't know what is causing this issue.
Recently I got problems when running SFC or DISM to repair my system. As far as I know it concerns the shortcuts in the folder Administrative Tools, there I changed under Properties the Run option to Maximised Windows and since then SFC and DISM have shown this error that the services are unable to download the proper source files (they admonish a mismatch I cannot correct).
I am running a Windows 8.1 Update 1 system without the Pro version, so I have no access to its exclusive features. I attach the corresponding log files after a run of DISM and SFC for more infos.
My Disk Usage and CPU columns of the task manager randomly jump up to 99% or even sometimes 100% which is unresponsive. This seems to happen more often when I run programs such as a malware scanner or League of Legends. My FPS in League stays around 1 when I do try to play and I'm assuming this is a related issue.
About 1-2 weeks ago, I had 15GB of space left on my SSD that is solely committed to OS and drivers. Today, I have 2.9GB left. I have downloaded nothing, and I have changed nothing. take a closer look at why my SSD space is disappearing? I've had this OS for 2 months now and it wasn't a problem until recently.
I ran SFC and it complained that some corrupt files could not be repaired.
Here's the relevant part of the log:
Code: 2014-09-17 00:06:45, Info CSI 00000520 [SR] Verifying 100 (0x0000000000000064) components2014-09-17 00:06:45, Info CSI 00000521 [SR] Beginning Verify and Repair transaction2014-09-17 00:06:46, Info CSI 00000522 Hashes for file member
