Pagefile Placement On System Booting From SSD
Feb 12, 2013
I bought a PC with a quad-core system with 16Gb RAM, a 128Gb SSD C: drive and a fast 1Tb D: drive. I just discovered that I have an 18Gb C:pagefile.sys and started wondering about the pros and cons of having this paging file on my SSD C: drive. Given that I have 16Gb RAM, I could probably get away with no page file at all. I could certainly manage with the pagefile entirely on the "traditional" D: drive. Are there any guidelines on pagefile placement in the SSD era?
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May 17, 2012
I had an additional Windows installation for testing purposes, on a different partition and now I want to delete everything associated with it because I need some free space.
Although I managed to take ownership and delete the Windows folder and few others, I can't delete System Volume Information and the pagefile.sys file.
System Volume Information - I can't get "ownership" of the files in the directory. Although I'm listed as an "owner" of the directory with "full control", when I check "Replace owner on subcontainer and objectes" I get "Access is denied" and then "Stopping propagation of the owner leads to an inconsistent state..." I think I came across this before, but I have no idea what to do. I also get "access denied" when I try to change the read-only attribute of the directory.
pagefile.sys - when I right click on it, the security tab says "The requested security information is wither unavailable or can't be displayed"
note: I can't format the partition
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Jan 19, 2012
I recently had a problem with reformatting a partition. It was solved by relocating the pagefile.sys.
Now whenever I boot upon login it says the system has made a temp pagefile system. I try adjusting the size of the pagefile system to much more, less, or equal to amount of ram (4gb). Doesn't seem to solve it.
dropbox has stopped working too; it seems like that malfunction may be related to the pagefilesys
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Any way to get icons to stay exactly where you put them. I use the 'desktop' feature on the taskbar and have multiple rows of icons and I would like to be able to organise icons into the second etc row before having filled up the first row, or place them on the right hand side without having filled all the space in between. Basically I want to place an icon where I want it and have it stay right there not slide over.
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Jul 13, 2012
Recently my desktop icon placement has not been able to stay put if I do a desktop refresh or a computer reboot. I have looked at many internet hits on this same topic and no solution suggested has worked. I have done the IconCache.db thing where you can delete an existing file from the hidden. AppdataLocal directory and restart the explorer. There was no file there. Yes, I have show hidden files turned on. Restarting explorer doesn't work. Rebooting is supposed to re-create the file, but it doesn't.
Resetting the colors from 32 to 16 and back is supposed to rebuild the cache. It doesn't. Still no file there. After manually placing a few icons and refreshing the desktop, it is supposed to remember where they are, but it doesn't, they just fly back to where they were before manually moving them. This is getting to be very aggravating and frustrating. I don't know why this has started all of a sudden, and I cannot seem to find a solution from the many internet hits on the same topic.
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I have a HP mini , which comes with windows 7 starter preinstalled .so, i which has 2 disk drives c,d and the HP recovery .in disk management i marked (HP recovery) "mark partition as active " , pressed ok on the warnings .the problem is that my laptop doesn't boot and gets to the HP recovery manager and when i cancel it to boot normally a message says "the installed program cannot start.press OK to turn off the computer".
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Mar 14, 2009
I have installed windows 7 beta on my windows XP machine,SATA hard disk. Issue: Unable to boot into win 7. XP boots fine.
C: had XP. Installed windows 7 to F: drive.
After installing I could boot into windows 7 and could work on it.
Later i found that windows 7 would boot (with the windows 7 boot manager) only when the windows 7 installation disc was on dvd drive.Otherwise only XP is shown in the boot selection menu - the standard old menu.
Now, even with the dvd, it does not boot into win 7. Instead it goes to the Windows 7 install screen. But the installed files are still there in F drive. So, tried repair in win 7 for start up, but no problems were found.
Tried easyBCD from within XP, but that didnt help booting to win 7.
One peculiar thing I noticed is, although I installed win 7 to F: drive, when seen from within win 7, the installation drive was shown as C: drive. In reality the C: drive contains the xp installation. From within win Xp, win 7 installation files are in F: drive only. Is this the problem?
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Feb 12, 2013
I'm running Win 7 Pro 64 bit on a system using an ASUS P5Q Pro motherboard.henever I'm away from the computer for an extended time, I always go to Start and put it in sleep mode. I've never had a problem with it waking back up and resuming until today. I had to leave the house for a while, so placed it in Sleep mode, but then realized I'd forgotten to do something, so before it actually went into sleep mode and shut down, I started moving the mouse to stop it. Nothing happened and I eventually heard the usual pop of the speakers indicating it had shut down into sleep mode. The monitor was blank. I kept moving the mouse, but instead of waking up and going back into Windows, I heard the same beep as heard when rebooting, and the Cmos stuff appeared on the screen as if booting, but then stopped and I saw "Press F2 to load defaults and continue" ....which I did. It started to do something then stopped with no HD activity and nothing on the screen. Nothing.
No activity. I then shut it down using the button on the front of the case and let it sit for a couple minutes. Pressed the On button and heard some activity with the green light and red activity light lighting. Sounded like a normal boot with the beep, speakers popped on, and it looked like something was going to appear on the screen, but....nothing. I could see the monitor had been activated....just nothing displayed. All activity stopped within a few seconds with only the green light still on. The internal fans were running, but nothing happening. Again, I shut it down using the power button, and shut the power supply off as well. I let let it sit and tried again.....same thing. It starts to do something, then quits with just the green light on and the internal fans running. It simply will not boot...and until this episode has been running great.
It seems to have something to do with pressing F2 and loading the bios defaults. I'm wondering if it may be locked in sleep mode. I contacted the guy who builds my systems and is unfortunately out of town and I'm in the middle of a magazine layout. We tried everything, but it simply won't go past that one point. It's not even POSTing. He suggested removing the motherboard battery in order to reset the bios and if it happens to be locked in sleep mode, removing and replacing the battery will delete any sleep mode settings.After reading about similar issues, I removed the motherboard battery and changed the jumper for 10 seconds to reset the bios and finally was able to get into the bios setup.
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Jan 7, 2012
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Sep 28, 2009
My main desktop is a Windows 7 installation but my partner still works from a laptop with XP installed.
She has a port replicator connected to my monitor and both our computers feed into it.
I was wondering if this scenario is possible;
Create a disc image of her system and install it on a new drive within my tower. (this will also have the added bonus of convincing her that we need a new bigger monitor!! )
Dual boot Windows 7 and XP.
Curveball;
Is there a way to allow her laptop to ghost the main install so that all files are synced or alternatively allow a ghosting of the whole installation?
The motivation behind this is that should she need to go away - always has a day or so notice, she can just pick up her laptop and know that when she opens it up she will just be able to carry on.
Curveball 2;
The laptop is a dell, so will all the drivers and bloatware that is on her install cause issues if the disc image is installed onto a desktop?
(before anyone asks, I have a retail XP licence which I will rely on for EULA etc.)
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Oct 30, 2012
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Recently had lightning struck a transformer. Phones all rang and tv went bizzare! Lucky we had a surge protector.
Well...the computer wasn't doing this before. It use to boot fine but after the transformer problem it starts to boot. Then goes into a screen where it says "Launch System Repair" and "Start windows normally". Even if I select start windows normally it would still go into the system repair menu. I ran PC Check and my hardware all passed. My hard drive passed the SMART self extended test too.
Right now I'm booting off Hirens 15.1 into Mini XP.
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Jan 22, 2011
My Win7 HP x64 PC has two hard drives, each partitioned into two volumes:
My C: and E: drives are each half of a 200GB drive, both NTFS.
My D: and F: drives are each half of a newer, 1TB drive, both NTFS.
My F: drive has around 400GB of 'stuff' that I want to preserve.
I've been trying to migrate the win7 installation from C: to the first partition of the 1TB drive with two different tools (Norton Ghost and the built-in Windows backup utility) and both fail identically.The backup procedure itself appears to work in both cases.Restoring the backup to the first partition of the 1TB drive "works" in so much as I don't get any errors either way.Creating the requisite boot structures also work, as the O/S appears to be bootable.However, when the restored O/S makes it to the login screen, two flaws are evident:
1. The keyboard absolutely does not work.
2. If I log in on an account that doesn't need a keyboard (no password), I see "Loading desktop", then a few seconds "Logging out" and I'm back at the login screen.
If I look at the event viewer logs (booting up with the O/S on the smaller drive), I see numerous events like this:"The AVGIDSAgent service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified.""The Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant service failed to start due to the following error: The system cannot find the file specified."
[code]....
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Oct 4, 2012
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Aug 6, 2012
Booting with the 32bit dvd does not bring up the Repair service but goes onto Starting Windows screen from the dvd itself. Then PC lockup. Every time.How to stop DVD at booting to bring up System Repair service?
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May 17, 2012
i have an m17 r2 alienwAre laptop.in the bios menu the sata option HCAI is selected but when the comp boots it says no operating system is found when booting for bios sata option RAID it runs fine. But the comp should be on HCAI in order to run features that a specific to that computer . I have tryed reformatting but in HCAI it on finds the second of 2 500g hard drives but the partition with the boot is on hdd1 not hdd2 . Boot up again with RAID it finds both and and I can reformat have tryed to reset the registry and have tryed using drivermax to find out if I'm missing sata drivers I've also tryed reinstalling my bios from the dell
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Mar 10, 2011
I recently (~2-3 months ago) installed windows 7 on a brand new 1TB hard drive. This hard drive is broken into two partitions - C & G. Windows 7 is installed on C; and G is only for data storage etc. Here is the description of partition C from Disk Management:
C: Simple Basic NTFS Healthy (Boot, Page File, Active, Crash Dump, Primary Partition) 98 GB
Unfortunately, "System" is missing from that description. Somehow "System" ended up on hard drive L - an old 80GB IDE drive that has migrated from build-to-build. This drive has just started on the *hopefully* slow road to death. I decided to retire this drive when I discovered I couldn't securely erase it because it is the System partition (there is only one partition on this drive).
So, how I can relocate the system drive data to another drive (preferably C) in the safest way possible. I found a solution here: [URL]. But I don't want to copy the entire contents of L to a new drive, all I want is the data needed for booting, and to securely erase everything else on L. Looking around, it seems I may be able to boot from a Windows 7 repair disk and recreate the system files on C, but this seems risky and likely to require a full re-install if something goes wrong.
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Jul 10, 2012
I'm trying to restore my Windows 7 64bit machine to its factory settings at the moment, and I've tried the following but they've all failed.1.) Boot up and hit F8, select Repair computer, but then it just boots Windows normally.2.) Create System Repair Disc, and from BIOS boot-up, choose boot from DVD-RW, but when it does that and loads Windows files, Error 0xc000000d and winload.exe missing comes up.3.) When I tried to insert the installation disc that came with my computer, it's not recognized and nothing happens (during boot from DVD-RW).*Note - Just today when I tried to do a system restore, it said that I had no previous restore points, but I just restored a week ago, so that might add some info.
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May 6, 2012
Firstly I should say that I am primarily a mac user, and it is not my laptop I am posting about. Although I am reasonably knowledgable about Windows, I haven't used it since XP, about four years ago, and so am pretty rusty.Basically, my girlfriends computer randomly turned off about a week ago, she assumed it was a dead battery, plugged it in, and then when it turned back on it wouldn't boot displaying error message: missing operating system.As it is a Dell laptop it didn't come with any installation discs, and I totally forgot to even make a repair disc when we got the laptop. I managed to get hold of a Windows 7 Installation Disc and license key for Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit through my university. I think the laptop was previously running Windows 7 Home Premium, but that's all I know, and I'm not entirely sure of that fact.
Anyway, burnt the .iso to disc and have tried to boot several times from DVD Drive. The laptop loads the files from the DVD fine, and gets as far as the "Starting Windows" screen, where it seems to get stuck for a few minutes, until it becomes a black screen with just a cursor (the cursor still moves). This also happens with an 64 bit repair DVD I also managed to get hold of.
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Aug 2, 2009
I'm running Windows 7 x64 with a Quad Core and 4GB of RAM. I've enabled Readyboost on two USB devices of 2GB each I had laying around: a SanDisk Cruzer Micro, random read speed is 5341 KB/sec, random write speed is 3068 KB/sec. And a Kingston FCR-HS219, random read speed is 3412 KB/sec, random write speed is 3739 KB/sec. Not much, but should suffice to give it a try.
While booting, I saw and improvement. But the thing is I have my computer on 24/7 so I don't care that much about boot time. And I don't see a lot of activity of these devices once is turned on. Specially over the pendrive.
Is it because I have > 2GB RAM? Or is it because they are too small?
Would I benefit if I create a pagefile over one of these devices instead of Readyboost?
How can I "measure" this?
Is there a guide regarding Readyboost and USB devices?
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Aug 14, 2012
I heard that the pagefile uses a lot of space on the ssd and they were right, I reduced it to 800-900mb on my C drive and kept it at system managed on secondary drive. What is the recommended minimum page file size? I have win 7 ultimate x64, 16 gigs ram and my C drive is a 240 GB Kingston HyperX 3k
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Feb 19, 2012
The files pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys are 8GB and 6GB accordingly. Are they important? Can I delete them or at least reduce them?
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Dec 6, 2011
I don't fully understand how all this works yet, and I'm not sure if I can disable this and still expect it to run smoothly! Some places I looked said that with anything over 4gb of ram, I really wouldn't need it, but others said keep it for sure..
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Apr 26, 2009
I was wondering what's a good size for a Windows 7 pagefile partition? I have Windows 7 installed on my primary drive (OS) and decided to make a 7GB pagefile partition on my secondary drive as I heard it is better to have the pagefile on a different hard drive. I have 6GB of memory installed if it makes any difference.
Is 7GB enough? I noticed the partition already gets filled up so I had to disable that annoying "hard drive disk space is low" balloon notifications that kept popping up.. people are getting away with having no pagefile so I figured 7GB would be more than enough?
I should add that I am not experiencing any blue screens of death or any problems despite the notifications popping up.
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Feb 8, 2011
I am running out of space on my C drive and this pagefile.sys is massive like 1.9 gigCan this be moved/ deleted/ cleaned over its cache if it has one?
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Sep 30, 2011
Ok so I was trying to install dell quickset which doesn't work no matter what I do since I upgraded to 8gb or ram and installed a ssd. The main problem is I don't have the pagefile turned on so windows won't boot and safe mode boots but only has 240MB of ram and it so full you can't run anything.I have no system restore points. All I need to do is undo the max memory setting. Tried last known config, running msconfig in safe mode, bcdedit.
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Sep 19, 2009
I have 64-bit Windows 7 running on drive C.
w/ Readyboost enabled (if this matters)
Is it possible / feasible to move my pagefile to my 32-bit (D) drive?
I googled but couldn't find an answer.
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Mar 14, 2011
Ever since I changed my RAM modules, Windows always allocated more space to the pagefile. When I had 4GB of RAM, the advised size of the pagefile by Windows was 6GB. I now have 8GB of RAM and Windows recommended size for the PF is 12GB. So I set a fixed size of 12GB for the PF and didn't let Windows manage the file by itself. I'm about to get 4x 4GB of RAM for a total of 16GB. And I think it would be really exaggerated to allocate 16GBx1.5=24GB for the pagefile, especially because my system is on a 60GB SSD.
I want to keep a pagefile so please don't advise me to disable it. This is my workstation and believe me I will use all of the 16GB of RAM. My question is: what is the size I should give to the pagefile to avoid any problem (like app crashes)? Is there a way to see in Windows how much MB or GB is currently used by the pagefile? --> That would be a good way to assess my needs.
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Aug 23, 2011
how much ram I would need to buy to turn off the windows virtual memory? And should I buy ECC or non registered memory? Would 8 gigs of dual channel memory be enough? Also,is it ago to have to sets of dual channel memory (4 x 2 gigs DDR3-1600mhz)?
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