Maintenance :: How To Migrate Boot To 24GB MSATA
Sep 1, 2013
I have an Asus VivoBook that came with a 24GB mSATA (separated into two partions) cache drive and a 465 GB spinning drive partitioned into half. After basis setup, I appear to be using about 40GB.
I've done some homework and it appears that because of Bios limitations that replacing the mSATA drive with something bigger is not an option. I'd also prefer to not replace the spinning drive for cost reasons.
I'm evaluating the benefit of pruning my boot drive to its essentials and moving everything unessential to the its own partition on the spinning drive, then cloning this and moving it to the mSATA drive and rejiggering the boot sequence.
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Jun 15, 2014
Lately I've been having these annoying popups telling me I'm running out of memory, but I really don't understand it. I have 32GB of RAM and I'm currently using a little less than 8GB of it.
The popups don't indicate that I'm running out of virtual memory (paging file), but I do get system events saying e.g. Windows successfully diagnosed a low virtual memory condition. The following programs consumed the most virtual memory: Watch_Dogs_3dm.exe (8104) consumed 3199815680 bytes, uTorrent.exe (4380) consumed 237621248 bytes, and explorer.exe (3992) consumed 148795392 bytes.
My pagefile is managed automatically and is about 4GB in size currently. With so much spare RAM, I really don't get why Windows is using my slow disk (3 disk stripe, not that slow, but still). I put in enough so I can run games without closing my virtual machines, browsers, etc. I barely ever use over 24GB so I still have plenty room for the occasional spike.
I know I can manually set my pagefile to 64GB if need be, but I bought RAM to be used. My disks should only be used for storage, not for paging.
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Jan 14, 2014
These are the steps I've taken-- OS Win 8, pre-installed by Acer.
1) Make recovery USB using the Acer recovery wizard, with the laptop in stock configuration.
2) Install msata as secondary drive
3) Go to Computer management and initialize the msata and format with GPT style. Format the drive, assign a drive letter. (I only see 1 partition). I did this as NTFS/default allocation size. Is this where I went wrong?
4) Remove the factory HDD (listed as HDD0 in BIOS)
5) Boot to BIOS
5a) in BIOS, disable secure boot.
5b) Go to legacy mode
5c) Set msata (HDD1 in BIOS) as #1 in boot order
6) boot to USB recovery drive, follow steps to restore from USB (clean install, make partitions as it wants)
7) remove USB, reboot.
Error message-- no bootable device. I can basically load the USB again or the BIOS.
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Sep 15, 2014
Shouldn't my SSD be viewable somewhere in windows 8.1? It's not unallocated in Disk Utility, just not there, but I can see it in bios, although I can't set it as a boot option.
I'm confused because I thought my OS was on it, but I've been booting without it, so it may have never worked I've had this laptop for a little under 10 months.
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Jun 12, 2013
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I ordered a Dell XPS 8500 Special Edition desktop with a 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate OS installed on a 500GB Samsung 840 SSD and a 3TB HDD for videos/music/documents/etc. I want to install Windows 8 so that it will be a dual boot system along with Windows 7. Each OS will be on a separate SSD. I have an empty mSATA port. So, I've ordered a mSATA to 7 pin adapter like above to connect a 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD to and to install Windows 8 on it. I understand that this mSATA connector should make the 256GB SSD bootable.
The desktop comes with an OEM Windows 8 installation disk. I have a Windows 8 Pro upgrade disk. What would happen if I had to install Windows 8 a second time on the same SSD on the same desktop? I've read that the 8 Pro upgrade deletes the original OEM serial number. How would I install Win 8 again if I would need to for some reason? Would I have to purchase another edition of Win 8?
With the 3TB HDD, I would like to partition it so that both Win 7 and Win 8 can use it, but on separate partitions. How would I do this? Would it be like any partition? GTP?
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Nov 19, 2013
I just received my Inspiron 15z with 32GB mSATA and 500GB HDD, and I was disappointed to find that Windows 8 is installed on the 500GB (presumably 5400 RPM) HDD. For performance sake, I expected that the OS would be installed on the mSATA drive.
I'm not sure the best way to fix this with the Recovery Media, as I've never done this before. I don't want to run into Windows activation issues, but I want to do a clean installation using the mSATA drive as my OS drive.
I don't really care about the recovery partition, since it's apparently configured incorrectly (in my opinion). I just want the OS on the mSATA drive.
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Jan 24, 2014
I want to add a SSD next to the existing HDD in my notebook running Windows 8.1 (is possible : I already checked this).
Now, I would like to know how to migrate the OS, present on the HDD, which I keep in the laptop, to the SSD :
- use of any software ?
- different steps to realise an easy and working migration ...
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Feb 4, 2014
I have an issue that I couldn't find anywhere on the forums. I recently received an SSD for christmas (32GB). I previously had Windows 8.1 installed on my other drive, a 2TB SSHD, but then re-installed Windows 8 to my SSD, and kept my personal data on the SSHD. Now I read online that any SSD under 64GB should be used for cache'ing my SSHD, rather than using it for storage. Would it even be useful to re-install Windows 8 onto the SSHD again, then transfer all my stuff? I'm slowly running out of space, even though I install all programs to my SSHD.
Is there any way I can clone the SSD to the SSHD, including the cache to the hidden solid-state part of the SSHD?
If so, are there any special precautions I have to take?
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Jun 29, 2014
Now that Microsoft have killed Windows Easy Transfer in Windows 8.1 is there any method or tool that will facilitate performing a clean install and reinstating applications, settings, registry tweaks, etc?
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Aug 10, 2014
Maintain Stuff as Migrate from Windows 7 to 8.1 So, when I moved from XP to Win 7 (late compared to most), I hear and read about Easy Transfer etc.
I figured the best was to figure out the FILE, FOLDER and PATHs for IMPORTANT things I wanted to CONSERVE.
If possible migrate PROGRAMS as THEY ARE.
XP32 > Win7x64 Migrate Settings Data: Chrome+Extn, Outlook+iTunes+App? - Windows 7 Now from XP > 7, a lot of paths changed.. Documents & Settings vs Users info, Local and other date.. Pretty much for every Program / Application.
Outlook was one drama, iTunes was other, Office another, WLMail another and so on.
Now, I am guessing there are some TOOLS or Simple Win 8.1 Upgrade that can be run on Win 7x64 Ultimate..
and there is..
.. Manual CURATING FILES, FOLDERS and PATHS and CONFIGURATIONS for Windows and Non-Windows thingies. (I did that XP .. > 7.. mapping big time.. and it was great.. but tiring to prepare the list and instructions)
Exhaustive MAPPING LIST.. that allows me to ensure BY HAND, everything was taken bit for bit.
I've used RichCopy, RoboCopy and TeraCopy in CONJUNCTION.. extensively before. Its just takes a lot of time, energy and attention to detail. "Easy transfer" resets folder modified date
XP32 > Win7x64 Migrate Settings Data: Chrome+Extn, Outlook+iTunes+App?
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Apr 27, 2014
I purchased a new notebook and it has Office 2014 installed.. I was using Outlook on my old notebook, is there a way to migrate my account/folders/emails to my new notebook? I want to just pick right up where I left off, not have everything 'archived' and start new or anything..
Do I just copy the PST files over?
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Jul 9, 2013
is there a way to migrate an upgrade license? i try to explain it better.
i bought a windows 8 pro upgrade license and activated on a windows 7 pc now i would like to restore windows 7 and use windows 8 on another pc is it possible to migrate in some way that upgrade license (maybe with a phone call activation)?
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Jan 3, 2013
How to Migrate OS to new Hard disk of the same or different size.
For this example, I am using a 500gb HDD moving a 250gb HDD.
Windows 8, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot.
Using Paragon 12.
1) Download Paragon 12 from here: PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning Free try link: Paragon Backup & Recovery Home
2) Install your New HDD to a USB Dvice.
3) Install & Open Paragon B&R 12.
4) Click on Hard Drive Migration.
5) Click Next.
6) Click Next.
7) Click Next.
8) Click Next.
9) Click Next.
9) Click Yes & Next.
10) Click Finish.
11) Remove old HDD & replace with New HDD.
All Done.
Moving pre-installed Windows 8 from HDD to SSD Originally Posted by Epoch IT WORKED! So I know you posted this awhile ago, but I hadn't tried it because I could only find the paid version. After you posted this link I found the free trial version. I installed the program, went to Disk Migration, automated everything, took out the HDD, put in the SSD, and it boot in less than 5 seconds, perfectly.
Wow! There is a solution.
SSD Originally Posted by diesele This app checks alignment Download AS SSD benchmark 1.7.4739 - Technical Details - [URL]...
Hover the mouse in the top left box and it will indicate alignment or not.
Getting almost 500Mbps read and 400Mbps best write on the SSD :-) As Paragon have updated for Windows 8.1, you will need Paragon 14.
Paragon Hard Disk Manager Professional - Overview
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Aug 30, 2013
I am trying to migrate my OS to SSD but I spent one evening without success. I was trying to clone disk but after swaping drives I'm getting screen that my system should be recovered.
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Mar 15, 2014
My PC takes its sweet time to boot given the specs it has. (around 1.75 mins) Especially the "black" part seems to take so long. I've fastboot enabled and I use UEFI. how to make the PC boot faster ?
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Jun 8, 2013
I am dual booting Windows 8 and win7. I actually have Windows 8 installed on its own hard drive and win 7 installed in its own hard drive. The win7 hard drive has been in use for the past 2 years and I have had Windows 8 running for about a week now. I purchased another hard drive for Windows 8 and left the old Win7 as it was.
I also have 3 other hard drives in the system. Everything is formatted NTFS.
So my system is as follows
Drive C - Boot Drive - I physically swap out the dedicated hard drive for Win 8 or Win 7
Drive D - internal 250 GB sata drive
Drive F - internal 250 GB sata drive
Drive H - internal 250 GB hard drive.
I have been running this config for about 2 years under Win7 with no problems.
The problem that I have now is when I swap the boot drive and boot up a different OS than last time (Like booting Windows 8, powering down system, swap boot drive, boot Win7) the system always says that there are problems on the 3 non-boot drives. It runs chkdsk(it least that is what it look like) and processes the 3 non boot disks one at a time which take about 10-12 minutes for all 3. Most of the time it finds no problems, but about 1 out of 5 boots will find a problem with one of the disks and then fixes it. The disks seem to be OK while I am running. I then power down and swap boot drive and reboot the other os and we start all over again. I am powering the system completely down for each reboot to make sure that the disk cache is flushed.So far the disk problems have been fixed by chkdsk at boot, but I am sure the day will come when the disk cannot be fixed and I will loose data.
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Mar 17, 2013
I am trying to migrate my email folders (sent, saved, etc.) from OE6 and windows XP to the new Windows 8 mail. I have managed to get the DBX files on flash drive But I cannot find any info on how to migrate it to windows 8.
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Sep 27, 2013
I have Asus Maximus V formula z77 with latest EUFI firmware, and EVGA GTX 680 classified with EUFI firmware. Bios is set to fast boot etc, and it is enabled in windows, but I'm seeing no difference from before. I was using boot racer and seeing 11-14 second windows load times with another 10-15 til desktop. Averaging around 28 second boot speeds, whether from a fast boot shut down or a restart. My OS drive is a Samsung 840 EVO 250GB.
My windows 7 booted faster on an OCZ Vertex 4 128GB.
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Jun 12, 2014
bought a surface pro from a friend yesterday, it had been turned on before I got it so I thought I would reset to factory settings, all was fine until the reset was around 90%, then a box appeared saying "the computer has restarted unexpectedly or encountered an unexpected error. Windows installation cannot proceed. To install windows, click OK to restart the installation". But when it restarts the same message pops up.
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Dec 20, 2013
When I turn the power on, my desktop PC (a Hewlett-Packard) goes into a BIOS startup routine that says "Preparing Automatic Repair" and then "Diagnosing Your PC" which has to finish before it will load Windows or any OS. I've seen it before, and usually it just takes a few seconds. But now it's stopping at the "Diagnosing" message and won't go any further. I turn it off and on, and it does the same thing again. I can get into the BIOS menus and choose other options like booting from another drive, recovery options, etc. but no matter what I choose it starts the BIOS over again and gets hung up on the "Diagnosing" step, so I can't boot ANYTHING.
Any way to bypass or break out of this BIOS startup loop so I can get to Windows?
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Jul 5, 2013
I had noticed 8.0 was slower booting than 7 or Vista. It is on a different HD so never bothered timing it.
Now I have 8.1 on the same HD as 7 and Vista. Here you go:
Win7 partition1 :
Win 8.1 partition 2:
Vista partition 3 :
I am not using hybrid boot - and have no interest in doing so.
There isn't anything extra in 8.1. startup - there is actually more in win7 startup ( just clipdiary).
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Nov 29, 2013
This brand new HP Pavilion Laptop had a UEFI Boot entry in the BIOS.
I used the HP Support Assistant to update the HP functions and programs, and it downloaded a new UEFI diagnostic which it installed as a partition on the drive - It was already there to begin with, but the new version removed the entry "UEFI Boot" from the Bios Boot Selections and now it just says "OS Boot Manager"
Therefore, when I try to use "Advanced Start" options from PC Settings, I no longer get the options to go into Safe Mode or the other recovery options, the system just reboots and F8 does absolutely nothing.
Other than setting my BCD to Legacy Mode, I cant get this into Safe Mode.
I burned the recovery disks which were 6 DVDs, will that put the original OS back in? I do have the free 8.1 update available, maybe the new UEFI only works for 8,1? I'm just trying to figure out how to put the UEFI Boot option back in, the original UEFI tool cannot be downloaded from HP.
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Apr 11, 2014
I bought my Dell desktop about 3 years ago. Since then I replaced the HDD with a new Samsung SSD and reinstalled Windows 8 on it. After that it started running really fast.
I usually don't reboot it too often, I do it maybe once a month after installing updates. What I've been noticing lately is that it takes progressively longer to boot this desktop up. I initially thought that the SSD was going bad, so I cloned it 1-to-1 to the original HDD that the desktop came with and that I never used, but the boot time didn't change. I timed it today and it took about 5 minutes to boot up while showing this window:
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Jun 29, 2014
I am trying to analyse boot performance using this tool on 8.1 Pro.
Windows Performance Analyzer
I have already updated to the latest version of ADK but after rebooting it fails. I have Windows 6.3.9600 Build 9600 and Performance Recorder version 6.3.9600.16384(winblue_rtm.130821-1623) which I downloaded yesterday from MS.
Can run this on 8.1 or do I have some incorrect version?
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Feb 6, 2013
Dual boot, can see any performance difference between 2 OS. I dual boot on my laptop with Win 7 and Win 8 ,both 64 bits and using the latest version of VLC player on both of them i can see that the video playback is smoother on Win 7 than in Win 8 for the same video file. With Windows Media player it`s the same as well with Media player classic. Any other issues between the 2 OS ?
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Sep 19, 2013
So a a day ago I woke up, turned on my computer, and was surprised at how long it took to turn on. It took, like, 30 minutes to get to the desktop screen (I have Pokki so it goes to metro for a seconds and then automatically goes to the desktop).
It took its sweet time trying to load steam and I ended up cancelling the load. Nothing loaded except for Launchy, not even the Pokki start button. I was surprised so I turned it on again and it kept going slower each time; I shouldn't have kept restarting, but I was stupid.
Anyways, I left the house and when I got home I restarted it twice before I decided to just let everything load. I was able to close the Steam startup, something I'd been trying to do for some time, but the computer had booted so slowly and the computer had lagged so badly I'd not been able to. I couldn't even open the task manager because when I moved the mouse down to make the taskbar popup it would lag. When I right-clicked it would take a minute or two to open the box and when I clicked on "task manager" it wouldn't open because the program would time out. There would be a Microsoft error pop-up box when it timed out. When I would get it to open it would take a long ass time to load and it crashed a few times.
Anyways, I decided to just let it load, it took 2-3.5 hours to open everything. I opened Advanced System Care Ultimate and ran a virus check and then I went to sleep, when I woke up it said that the check (a full scan) had run for 8 hours and there were no problems according to the program.
Things were still kinda laggy, but the speed of the computer was the same it had been when it as first laggy. So, unusable laggy, but not as bad as it had gotten. Also, it said that Windows 8 hadn't been activated and when I tried to activate it Windows said it couldn't activate it at the time.
The message left (after being there the whole night), but things were still laggy (oh and this is not the first time I have installed Windows 8 so during the night I also left it to delete the old windows.old folders, it would say that it kept finding new items. So, even the deletion of things was sloowwww). I turned on Skype and even though the internet was connected it didn't connect. I turned on the troubleshooter, but it would time-out. I opened Google Chrome and it actually opened! When that happened Skype started to work and, even though things were still laggy, I thought things were getting better. I saw a video.
I left the house, but I left everything on as Advanced System Care Ultimate checked for malware (after having run the antivirus check the previous night). When I got home the internet didn't work, but the computer was almost as fast as it was before (its got 4 years, and it recently fell, but there hadn't been any problems until that day. ACTUALLY, I don't know if this started before or after it fell, it wasn't from a high place, but the loading screen had been lagging for some time).
I ran the troubleshooter and it worked this time, it said that the Diagnostics Policy wasn't working. So, the internet stopped working in the 8-9 hours I was gone. Pokki still hadn't loaded, I went to PC settings and I tried to change the Lock Screen for no reason and it didn't work. I tried changing the account picture and that didn't work either. I'm at a loss, not sure whats happening to my computer, but its almost as fast as it once was.
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Jan 9, 2014
I have an HP laptop (G6-2005AX) with the following configuration
CPU: AMD A8-4500M APU 4-cores with Radeon HD Graphics
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7640G + 7600M Dual Graphics
Memory : 8 GB 1600Mhz DDR3 RAM (2x4GB in dual channel)
Mainboard: Hewlett-Packard 184A
Hard Drive: Seagate ST500LM0 12 HN-M500MBB 500GB 5400RPM
I'm using AVG free 2014 as AV and did a full system scan - no viruses.
The problem is that Windows 8.1 (64bit, pro) boots up really slow - taking upto 6-7 minutes. After it boots up and, well I don't know exactly how to put this - let's say "settles down", everything works as normal. After getting past the password screen, clicking on the desktop tile takes around 1-2 minutes to boot into desktop, after that opening any program (Chrome, MS-Word etc) will take 3-4 minutes - but after it has "settled", everything works as it should.
Also, another curious problem I am facing is that once in a while, when typing my password and logging in, Windows boots into a temporary profile (no apps, blank desktop) and a message appears on the notification area that "windows has logged you on with a temporary profile" or something similar - I need to sign out, then after I sign in again, my real profile gets loaded.
I thought the problem of logging into a temp profile, I thought was that the PC was not verified - I verified it by going to Change PC settings --> Accounts. But after 4-5 days, I see the option of verifying the PC again.
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Dec 1, 2013
Have a Gateway Desktop. Upgraded from 8 to 8.1.
Somehow I disabled the disabled Password Logon and its back asking for a password at boot.
Owner doesn't remember original password when setup.
I have a password blanking cd that I've used on both 8 and 8.1 pc's.
The problem is I can't boot from the CD and I can't, obviously, use that wonderful new setting, "Update", "Update and Recovery" and the option to boot with USB, CD etc. since I can't access the OS.
I have the BIOS set for the CD/DVD drive for first boot however boot options only show the "UEFI: ST....." drive.So I can't boot from within or without.
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Dec 16, 2013
I have suddenly got this problem. To the best of my knowledge I haven't installed anything prior to this happening. My pc used to take prob less than a minute to boot, but now takes around 10mins. Once booted it runs fine.
PC:
I have updated and scanned with Sophos AV and Windows defender and both show clean. I cannot boot to safe mode as the start up is so slow that nothing happens anymore hitting f8.
I have defragged and optimised both HDDs and run chkdisk.
No warnings in device manager. A few errors in eventlog but nothing major or consistent - I can get them if wanted.
I used SFC /SCANNOW Command which initially failed so I used Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth this appeared to work and then on running sfc /scannow then completed successfully with no errors, but no change in boot speed.
I then used system restore to restore the computer to prior to this happening - this completed successfully, but still no change on the boot up speed.
I then downloaded and ran the Windows Assessment console and have the logs, but am unsure really where to go with them. They are attached (Axelog).
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Mar 30, 2014
I'm having a problem trying to restore Win 8.1 after a crash. All I get is a blue screen with an error code.
I finally deduced that I was having a hardware problem with my beloved SSD (weird glitches and erratic behavior, occasional recognition errors in BIOS, and finally I/O errors when trying to restore from backup), so I pulled it out, and temporarily replaced it with a spare HDD of slightly larger size. The backup/restore program I use is Paragon, and it has worked flawlessly for me for some time, including when I migrated Win 8.0 to that SSD over a year ago. So I pulled up the last full-disk backup (from 4 weeks ago) and did a Restore to the replacement HDD, but the resulting installation will not boot. I've tried it several times, including using a different archive, and each time I get a blue screen saying "Your PC needs to be repaired", with an error code 0xc0000034.
What is this error code, and how do I go about fixing the problem? Is there some kind of issue with restoring an SSD backup to an HDD? (I know there is something about the partition alignment which may be different, for instance.) This program worked just fine in the opposite direction, meaning restoring a backup of an HDD to the SSD.
I might have been able to use the recovery media to fix the problem, if I had the current media... unfortunately, the disk I created was from prior to the 8.1 upgrade, and it won't work anymore. My mistake. But short of a clean install back to 8.0, and then another upgrade to 8.1.
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Aug 11, 2013
how to use it but my problem is when i shrink my C drive and extend it to D drive, my laptop restarts to EaseUS boot mode. when it is around 90% of loading my laptop went to hibernate and when i turn it on again, the EaseUS boot mode says it completed its processing, or whatever it is. i'm afraid that it will harm my hard drive that i didn't see it to complete, will it?
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