Maintenance :: UEFI Boot Removed After HP Updates?
Nov 29, 2013
This brand new HP Pavilion Laptop had a UEFI Boot entry in the BIOS.
I used the HP Support Assistant to update the HP functions and programs, and it downloaded a new UEFI diagnostic which it installed as a partition on the drive - It was already there to begin with, but the new version removed the entry "UEFI Boot" from the Bios Boot Selections and now it just says "OS Boot Manager"
Therefore, when I try to use "Advanced Start" options from PC Settings, I no longer get the options to go into Safe Mode or the other recovery options, the system just reboots and F8 does absolutely nothing.
Other than setting my BCD to Legacy Mode, I cant get this into Safe Mode.
I burned the recovery disks which were 6 DVDs, will that put the original OS back in? I do have the free 8.1 update available, maybe the new UEFI only works for 8,1? I'm just trying to figure out how to put the UEFI Boot option back in, the original UEFI tool cannot be downloaded from HP.
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Jul 6, 2013
I've downloaded a legal iso from MAPS, i ve slisptremed all latest updates into it with Windows download integrator (it uses dism afaik) , then the problems comes in - i cannot use USB as my install.wim is 4,8 GB. I ve burned a Dual layer DVD with Windows 8 stock recorder and the PC doesnt see the DVD drive as bootable. When using stock it boots uefi from pendrive without any problems. How to make this updated iso boot into UEFI mode ?
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Mar 18, 2013
I'm having nothing but epic failures when I try to image a Windows 8 box with Secure Boot enabled, that was installed using UEFI and has GPT partitions.
I can install using standard MBR, and disable Secure Boot and UEFI in the BIOS and I can restore that no problem.
However, I have been playing with Aomei, Macrium, EaseUs, etc to handle my image restores and not having any luck at all. Basically it's this thread that explains my issues almost perfectly.
Home user: Need Win 8 Disk Imaging solution with UEFI-compatible Startup Disks
I want to install Windows 8, using UEFI with Secure Boot, install patches, software, etc, then run sysprep, shut down, image and then deploy the image on the same make/model down the road.
The only real success thus far has been to load Windows 8, and then run imagex to capture a new wim and then install using that WIM. But that's a whole install, I'd rather just lay an image back down.
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Jan 2, 2014
I'm just been playing with free backup tools; Macrium Reflect and Aomei Backupper, and working out which works best for me for those times when you need to boot from a Recovery CD.
I've been using a Toshiba PC which has 64-bit Windows 8 preinstalled, and is using a GPT file system. I changed the boot order so that the CD/DVD drive comes before the main HDD, if it finds a valid bootable source.
The BIOS options on the PC also include:
* Secure Boot: enabled or disabled
* Boot mode: UEFI or Legacy (CSM)
I tried both Secure Boot enabled and disabled; this didn't seem to affect the findings below.
However the differences some on switching between UEFI mode and Legacy mode in the BIOS settings.
My question was whether I can boot from a Recovery CD in UEFI Mode; although the PC can access bootable CDs in Legacy Mode, it won't boot itself.
Aomei Backupper 1.6
CD was created using the Windows PE option rather than Linux. By changing to Legacy boot mode, I can boot from the Aomei CD, and it then could backup my HDD to an external USB drive. But I had to change back to UEFI boot to make the computer boot again.
Macrium Reflect Free v5.2.6444 - 32-bit.
This is similar to Aomei. I selected the option to create a CD using Windows PE (version 4). By changing to Legacy boot mode, I can boot from the Macrium CD, and it then could backup to an external USB drive. But I had to change back to UEFI boot to make the computer boot again.
Macrium Reflect Free v5.2.6444 - 64-bit.
This works! I selected the option to create a CD using Windows PE (version 4), 64-bit this time. This creates a CD which will boot in UEFI mode. I think this is because it uses the 64-bit version of Windows PE 4 rather than 32-bit.
So on this basis, I prefer Macrium Reflect Free, because it creates a CD which I can boot in UEFI mode without needing to get into the BIOS settings. It also works in Secure Boot mode.
Although this particular Toshiba seems to allow me to get into the BIOS without too much trouble by repeatedly hitting the F2 key on startup, I know not all PCs are so easy and some times when you need a recovery CD, the PC may not be functioning well enough to let you get into the BIOS easily.
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Mar 3, 2013
I have a paid for version of Acronis True Image Home 2010 that I have used for years with my Windows 7 box and it's been good.
I've also used Macrium Reflect Free, and today I tend to use AOMEI ddata backuper as it's free for personal and commercial use.
I have a new Dell laptop (with Windows 8), and thus far I have disabled the UEFI boot options and Secure Boot and use a classic setup. However, if I wanted to have a play with these other options to see what impact they would have on system performance, which of these drive imaging software packages would work?
I also have a desktop at work with all of these options (and that's likely where I will experiment). On that box, it's simple to drop in a test hard drive and whack away until I get it working. My laptop has an msata drive and I don't have any spares of these drives lying around.
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Apr 28, 2014
I had windows 7 running on my computer. When windows 8 came out I used a second harddrive as the windows 8 installation drive. Windows 8 automatically setup a dual boot system where every time I started the computer it took me a windows screen where I could select either windows 7 or windows 8. This has been going on since Windows 8 was released.
I decided it was getting old so I decided it was time to remove the old windows 7 harddrive. I tried doing it inside the windows 8 dual boot screen but could not find an option. So I decided to reformat the windows 7 harddrive. I did this in command prompt mode. After doing so when my computer restarted it said it could not find any harddrive to boot. Windows 8 is installed on the other harddrive, the one that was not reformatted. So how do I get it to start using that harddrive as the boot drive? I checked my bios and even physically disconnected the old HD that had windows 7 on it, but none of that seemed to work even though the Windows 8 HD is definitely in the boot order in the bios.
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May 9, 2013
My system specs are :
FX-8350
ASUS M5A97 R2.0 (UEFI motherboard)
CM thunder 500W
Radeon hd 7870
8 gb ram [800 mhz]
seagate barracuda 7200.12 1TB
and
seagate barracuda 7200.11 250 gb
I have installed windows 8 on the 1 TB hdd 200GB partition
The problem I am facing is: UEFI Boot takes longer time
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Apr 12, 2013
I have a Pavillion DM3 that I have updated to Windows 8 Pro. I have left the Win7 Home on as well and have a dual boot that I was going to keep until I was happy with Windows 8.
Windows 8 installed OK on a new partition and ran very well. I loaded some other software like Office and Acrobat, and it still started and ran very well. I then let it apply the Windows and Office updates (about 70 items). It then took about 10mins to boot. Thinking I had corrupted something, I tried the auto repair, but that didn't work, so I tried refresh and rebuilt the Win 8.
I reinstall all the items I had installed previously, and applied the updates again, but exactly the same problem - very slow to boot. I have now reverted to Win7 again, and it is all working fine again. I have left the HP System partition unchanged, and as the active drive. I did try various boot rebuilds but that didn't work either.
There must be something in the updates that causes this but I don't know how to find out what.
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Oct 23, 2013
I was recently installing and checking out Window 8.1. Everything is going just fine and with stuff like Start8 and Modernmix i personally feel i can maintain my old and preferred workflow (so, for the rest i can enjoy any new features that are now available!).
Anyway, as i was installing some of my software (and migrating settings from Windows 7 for some of them)... i came to some game launcher i use for Arma 2 called PlaywithSIX.
I had to install it a few times and the update mechanism was a bit fishy imo. For example; i could not even select where i wanted to install the applications (no extra options nothing), it just went straight into my Program Files folder.
After my install debacle i decided to make sure the system tray icon would always be shown and configure it when i stumbled upon the following:
Appearantly the app made several system tray icon entries, for having been started from several locations.
Is there any way to clean these entries in regedit somewhere or something? I hate having double entries in there for no reason....
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Aug 21, 2013
First, some context: I have a Dell Inspiron 15R SE that came with Windows 8.
I've managed to get a working dual-boot system with Ubuntu 12.10. I can't remember exactly how I done that, but I remember that I had to disable secure boot. I think that the boot configuration those days was:
Secure boot: DisabledLoad legacy option rom: EnabledBoot list option: Legacy
This "configuration" worked perfectly for 6-7 months.
Then, one day (last week, can't remember the exact day), when I was using Windows 8 the computer crashed. I hard-rebooted and got this screen:
After executed boot-repair from a Ubuntu LiveCD dozens of times I've decided to eliminate Ubuntu temporarily and focus to get a system with Windows 8 working nice.
Then I used my recovery DVDs to recover the system. Yup, Windows has booted. But when I restarted first time I got the same error. Then I, digging a solution, pressed F12 after a reboot and got here:
The highlighted option allows me to boot into Windows 8. So I went to boot options (F2) and changed the following configuration:
Load legacy option rom: DisabledBoot list option: UEFI
Now I can boot directly to Windows without need to press F12.
But my objective isn't complete. I want to erase all Ubuntu entries from the seconds image and restore the legacy boot from the first imagem (because they worked before).
I did two things:
I erased all partitions related to Ubuntu (root partition and home partition).I created a Windows recovery disk (not a system recovery disk).
I used the recovery disk to run the automatic recovery procedure (I forgot the exactly name). I've runned it at least 10 times with no success. Then I went to command prompt to try the famous triad: bootrec /fixmbr, bootrec /fixboot and bootrec /rebuildbcd. Still, no solution.
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Mar 24, 2014
After creating a UEFI bootable USB thumb drive with Rufus (using Windows 8.1 Enterprise ISO x64), for a Dell Optiplex 3010 (configured as UEFI only, no CSM, latest firmware version, Windows 8 installed), I didn't see a USB boot option, so I tried to add one manually. Unfortunately I erased the existing boot option (boot manager) by mistake. Although there were two boot options for PXE booting, the machine will not start anymore, even when there is an active WDS server on the network.
I also see Led's 2 and 3 lighting up, meaning according to the manual 'hardware ok but bios possibly damaged/corrupt'.
I understand I cannot start the machine from a bios boot disk because of GPT partitioning, and the UEFI USB boot disk I made might be corrupt (as it didn't show up as a boot option), however I don't understand why it won't boot from the PXE network card, as these boot options are still there.
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Aug 19, 2013
I have had to system restore 3 or 4 times in the last week or so as Windows 8 refuses to boot after installing the latest updates discovered from the last couple of weeks (though some are from December 2012)
I have unchecked all the current updates and have decided against installing them as they seem to be preventing Windows from booting.
Pattern - "Restart to install updates"
Restart locks on the start screen - Restart again and locks again (repeat this process 3x)
"Windows is automatically repairing..." - Fails
"Windows must restore settings to a previous time..." - Usually succeeds, sometimes fails.
Then I can get back into Windows.
As soon as I install these updates, I won't get back into Windows until I system restore since before the updates and my build won't remain stable unless I prevent Windows from installing these updates.What could be going on?
They are quite big updates (totalling ~740mb and have all been discovered in the last week or so though some date back to late last year)
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Apr 28, 2014
understand how to boot from my usb or dvd with UEFI.
I think I enable csm under boot then got to security and disable secure boot.
Then I get lost. Should I save and exit then go back to UEFI settings and select my new device and hit enter to boot or should this have been done earlier before the first save and exit?
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Sep 21, 2013
I have very little experience with Windows 8 until now. I am having an issue trying to run System Refresh or System Restore from the System Recovery Environment booted from the Windows disc. When I try to run it from the disc I already System Refresh says that the drive is locked. I tried System Restore and it said no OS's were found. I went into the CMD prompt and went to c: and can see the drive just fine.
Steps tried: running fixboot, fixmbr, rebuildbcd commands from CMDrunning dskchk /f (which forced a dismount)
I then read something about a non UEFI bootable disk couldn't access a GPT partition, which I think is the case here. So then I tried oscdimg to make my iso UEFI bootable (twice) and the UEFI Boot Manager still only shows 'Windows Boot Manager' at the boot menu. I even tried downloading an iso that was already UEFI incase I did it wrong and it still doesn't see it.
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Dec 19, 2012
On a new Win 8 laptop I can't boot from a USB flash drive or even a CD unless I turn off secure boot in the BIOS?
This surely can't be progress?
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Feb 11, 2014
How to A UEFI System using VHD. I was able to configure A UEFI system to boot from two different partitions one Windows 8.1 x64 & the second was Windows Server 2012 Rd. I want to do the same with VHD if possible.
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Sep 19, 2013
I've made a UEFI Win8PE by WADK , then burn it to a CD. I boot normal and I can see X:WindowsSystem32.
I use EasyBCD to [Add New Entry] to append new boot item to existing Windows 8. The boot menu becomes like this :
Windows 8
Win8PE
But the Win8PE fail to boot with error message like insert Windows disc again ...... in the primary black and white screen.
Should I not to use EasyBCD to [Add New Entry] ? As I do the same thing in BIOs + MBR harddisk that booted perfect. In UEFI + GPT partition , do I better not to use EasyBCD , instead to use BCDEDIT , if so , what's the command line to do this with bcdedit ?
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Jul 26, 2014
I was using my laptop with everything going smoothly. USB port with adapter and CF card inserted. Ear buds in audio port. I decided to close the laptop which automatically puts the system in hibernate (or whatever it does when fast startup is active). Everything looked good. Now when I come back to it, open the lid and begin to startup from hibernate state it gets hung in the bootup and will not proceed. I have tried holding the power button to shut down and then restart -- no joy -- comes back to the same hung screen. Have tried holding various escape keys with startup -- no joy -- back to that same hung screen. Is there some way to bypass the hyberfil file which is probably corrupted, and get back to a full cold boot and restart from scratch?
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Jul 30, 2013
When I access my UEFI during startup, the Boot Priority section is either empty or shows unrelated drives attached. I can select the drive from which to boot by clicking on the Boot Menu, then clicking on the drive desired.
I purchased a new Intel SSD and installed it as the "C" and "D" drives and was happily booting from that SSD until I added new HDDs to my system. I now have four HDDs plus the SSD. One of those HDDs still contains the original Root C bootup and Windows 8 system on it. I frequently now find the system, reason unknown, may choose to boot from the HDD rather than the SSD.
I cannot find the method for directing the UEFI bootup menu/priority steps... my goal is to have the computer boot from the SSD, which if it were to fail, then would secondarily boot from the HDD original Root C.
The computer arbitrarily changes the SSD from drive designation "C:" to "J:" and the HDD to "C:"... how to specify the SSD as the "C:" unless it fails or is removed? the computer system info:
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Jan 10, 2014
Windows 8.1: HP Pavilion 2475ea Desktop PC.
I have Secure Boot turned off. I have Legacy Boot turned on, but do not think that is needed.
This link gives me instructions to boot from CD but they seem not to make sense from No 2... [URL] .....
In that at 5-6-7 it seems to require me to select the CD then boot to Windows from HDD then restart and do the same again, but this time select CD again, or something??
I expected to set the device, then restart the computer and it would boot from the device, not restart Windows as described. I was able to boot from a WinPE 4b CD.
I then decided to try changing boot order in the UEFI BIOS. From then on the HP (F9) described menu showed 'Windows Boot Menu' only under UEFI Devices. I could only boot from CD after putting the order back to 'Windows Boot menu' at the top of the order list; after which, as long as the CD was in the drive the (F9) list showed the CD drive as selectable to boot from.
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Jul 14, 2013
Windows 8. I am confused with the Legacy and the UEFI boot methods. The reason I am confused I think, is because I read to darn much on the Internet. One bit of confusion is with respect to changing from UEFI to Legacy. It would appear from some comments that if I do that, Windows 8 won't boot anymore. I would have to change back to UEFI for indows 8 to boot.
I also read that changing back to UEFI could be a major problem when trying to access the BIOS. No, I am confused. My ultimate goal is to set my laptop up to dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu. Like I have been doing for the last multiple years with XP and Windows 7.
Dell Inspiron 5721
Windows 8
Intel i7 @ 1.9 GHz
BIOS Version - Dell Inc. A06 2/22/2013
SMBIOS - 2.7
BIOS Mode - UEFI
Secure Boot State - On
Memory - 8 GB[/QUOTE]
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Dec 19, 2013
I got this 3F0 Error and i am 100% Sure that my HDD is in good shape. I formatted yesterday, I try to enable UEFi [Disables Legacy Boot] and the 3F0 Error Pops out.
If i switch back to Legacy Boot [Disables UEFI and Secure Boot] then the PC starts normally.
Pavillion HP 14 e019tx
8670M 2Gb Gddr3
3230m , Core i5
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Aug 9, 2013
I have my main nbook (MSI GT683R-261CS), which have UEFI (AMI Aptio). However when I try to install Windows to (pre-created) GPT GUID sytem boot partition, Windows installation program kicks me to balls, that it can't be installed there.
In UEFI setup, there is no option to switch between MBR and GPT boot. Is there any utility, which will tell me, if my machine supports booting from GPT GUID?
I proceed in creating system boot GUID GPT by something like this:
Code:
rescan
list disk
select disk[=n]
detail disk
list partition
select partition[=n/l]
detail partition
[code].....
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Jun 6, 2013
My notebook has a Win 8 OEM key in UEFI. After wiping my hard disc I want to install Win 8 retail instead of OEM version.
Because this is not possible with stored OEM Win 8 key I want to boot with a Win 7 BootCD and patch the UEFI with a Win 8 retail serial key.
For that I need a Program like SLIC which accomplish this task.
But where do I get this SLIC tool?
is there another way to enter a new Win 8 key into UEFI from Win 7?
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Mar 13, 2013
Laptop: ASUS UX31A-DB71, latest BIOS: 218
Originally my laptop came with Windows 7 and when i looked at disk management my disks were formatted with UEFI schema. One of my friend gave me a UEFI bootable USB drive loaded with Windows 8. So, i thought why not give it a try. So, I created a backup of my OEM Windows 7 and saved the iso files in a seperate external HD (created twice just to be sure . Now, i decided to load the Windows 8. Booted into the BIOS and there is an option to select the USB drive along with the UEFI option for that USB drive. I selected the UEFI option but some reason it does not boot into UEFI.
So I decided to select the standard USB install and this option let me install windows 8. In the process of installing i formatted the partitions and made a single partition and installed Windows 8 on it. I am guessing now the drive is not GPT but MBR. I also noticed that his installation USB disk had an option to select either 32bit or 64bit of Windows 8... Would Microsoft create a same iso file with both versions? I am guessing he created the USB from a illegitimate source.
I am planning on purchasing Windows 8 Pro version as an iso but wanted to be confident that it would work with UEFI architecture.
Questions:
1. Why would the system NOT boot from UEFI?
2. If I download the legitimate iso from Microsoft and wanted to install Window8 Pro via UEFI, I am sure i would have to format my SSD to GPT and how would i go about formatting it during installation?
3. How would i create a recoverable USB for my iso image i created for Windows 7 via ASUS AI Recovery. Do I need to follow the same procedure as stated in creating bootable USB disk (i.e. FAT32 system) via diskpart utility?
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Sep 19, 2013
I use a shortcut to restart Windows 8.1 to my UEFI BIOS. The problem is it goes through various screens and selections until I finally get to the one to boot to my UEFI. I was wondering id there was a way to boot directly to my UEFI without going through extra steps? Here's what I'm using now:
C:WindowsSystem32shutdown.exe -r -o -f -t 00
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Nov 17, 2013
I just install windows 8 using BIOS , but now i want to change it to UEFI boot. so i followed steps below
1.create and format a new FAT32 partition K:
2.my windows8 is in I: so , i use this command bcdboot i:windows /f all /s k: and succeeded.
3.i checked with the bootice about the BCD in my K: and found it indeed point to i:windows just like the picture below [URL]
4. and i restart, choose uefi boot in BIOS configuration and it showed like this: [URL]
5. i checked my k:/windows/system32/ , there is a winload.efi file... [URL]
The most strange thing is that i've copyed my winload.efi to other computer which is already in UEFI mode , and also i've copyed it in my virtual machine, it works fine! So my winload.efi should be OK.
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Nov 27, 2012
My bios shows uefi boot option but no uefi shell... I enabled uefi boot option and booted my dvd it asked me to partition my hd using a GPT format... I even did so so... but when I run
Code:
bcdedit /enum
In elevated command prompt it shows me this
Code:
Windows Boot Manager
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identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=DeviceHarddiskVolume1
description Windows Boot Manager
[Code] .....
The bold line means my system does not boot from efi... isn't it?
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Jan 8, 2013
Can I change boot logo with my costumized logo in Windows 8 without UEFI system?
If you opens bootres.dll with 7-zip you find 6 files with this names: winlogo1.bmp,winlogo2.bmp,winlogo3.bmp,winlogo3n.b mp,winlogo4.bmp,winlogo5.bmp.
But i made a logo with the same dimensions but i cant save the image in dll. How can I do it?
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May 7, 2013
I was finally able to install windows 8 in uefi mode using a usb and was wondering how i could install ubuntu 13.04 to dual boot with windows 8 uefi? basically i dont want to disable secure boot nor any other feature in bios. If can go into youtube and search for "Dual-Boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.10 by AvoidErrors" and tell me if that video is the way to install it.
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Jul 11, 2014
I recently bought a new SSHD for my laptop and after initial problems with trying to install Windows in UEFI, I turned to Legacy and that worked. But now when I change it to UEFI, it just comes up as "Operating system not found".
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