Maintenance :: Boot Recovery CDs With UEFI - Macrium Reflect / Aomei
Jan 2, 2014
I'm just been playing with free backup tools; Macrium Reflect and Aomei Backupper, and working out which works best for me for those times when you need to boot from a Recovery CD.
I've been using a Toshiba PC which has 64-bit Windows 8 preinstalled, and is using a GPT file system. I changed the boot order so that the CD/DVD drive comes before the main HDD, if it finds a valid bootable source.
The BIOS options on the PC also include:
* Secure Boot: enabled or disabled
* Boot mode: UEFI or Legacy (CSM)
I tried both Secure Boot enabled and disabled; this didn't seem to affect the findings below.
However the differences some on switching between UEFI mode and Legacy mode in the BIOS settings.
My question was whether I can boot from a Recovery CD in UEFI Mode; although the PC can access bootable CDs in Legacy Mode, it won't boot itself.
Aomei Backupper 1.6
CD was created using the Windows PE option rather than Linux. By changing to Legacy boot mode, I can boot from the Aomei CD, and it then could backup my HDD to an external USB drive. But I had to change back to UEFI boot to make the computer boot again.
Macrium Reflect Free v5.2.6444 - 32-bit.
This is similar to Aomei. I selected the option to create a CD using Windows PE (version 4). By changing to Legacy boot mode, I can boot from the Macrium CD, and it then could backup to an external USB drive. But I had to change back to UEFI boot to make the computer boot again.
Macrium Reflect Free v5.2.6444 - 64-bit.
This works! I selected the option to create a CD using Windows PE (version 4), 64-bit this time. This creates a CD which will boot in UEFI mode. I think this is because it uses the 64-bit version of Windows PE 4 rather than 32-bit.
So on this basis, I prefer Macrium Reflect Free, because it creates a CD which I can boot in UEFI mode without needing to get into the BIOS settings. It also works in Secure Boot mode.
Although this particular Toshiba seems to allow me to get into the BIOS without too much trouble by repeatedly hitting the F2 key on startup, I know not all PCs are so easy and some times when you need a recovery CD, the PC may not be functioning well enough to let you get into the BIOS easily.
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Mar 30, 2014
1. Does secure boot need to be disabled to boot to the Macrium Reflect Free boot disk? I've got a friend I am working remotely and she has been unable to get the disk to boot in order to restore an image I made for her a while back. I assume secure boot is enabled on her Win 8 machine.
2. From what I've read, the pay version of Macrium Reflect seems able to allow you to open the application in Windows, set up the restore, and then it reboots automatically into the Macrium recovery environment. Would secure boot interfere with that operation?
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Oct 28, 2013
I have a question about Macrium Reflect Free, and dual boot...
I have two installations of Windows 8 (and Windows 8.1), on two separate SSDs. Let's call one SYSTEM1, and the other one SYSTEM2.
Let's say I have booted inside the SYSTEM1 Windows installation. Now I want to backup SYSTEM2, with Macrium Reflect Free. I load Macrium Reflect and select all available partitions on the SYSTEM2 disk (which are just two, the main one and a system-reserved one).
By doing like this, will also the MBR (Master Boot Record) of SYSTEM2 get copied inside the Macrium image-backup? In other words, will Macrium Reflect always copy the master boot record (if available), even if the selected drive is not the one from which Windows is currently running?
Or will the MBR get copied just with the option "create an image of the partition(s) required to backup and restore Windows"? Probably not.
I'm interest about this because it would be useful to do a backup of the MBR (together with the partitions), in case a virus infects it.
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Nov 26, 2013
Has the "Event 513 error" issue been solved in the latest version of Macrium Reflect (Free)? This version: 5.2.6433 (11 November 2013)
Event 513 errors in Windows 8.1
Possible Macrium Issue?
In any case, is it currently safe to use Macrium Reflect (latest free version), from the point of view of operating system integrity (with Windows 8.1)?I'm a little scared that this "Event 513 error" issue could corrupt Windows 8.1 in some way.
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Apr 1, 2014
I am using Macrium Reflect Free to make weekly images of my PC. Every few weeks Macrium provides updates to the program with bug fixes and even feature enhancemen.
When you make a rescue disk that will be used to boot a your dead computer and restore a disk image, part of that process sets up the current version of Reflect on that disk. Over time the (old) version on the rescue disk and the current version you are using for backup get further and further apart.
Macrium does not provide any guidance that I can find on remaking your rescue media to keep it up to date. The obvious thing would be to remake rescue media for each update.have any info on criteria from Macrium that would safely allow a less tedious frequency of media updates?
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Oct 26, 2013
I am now getting an Event ID 513 log every time I create a System Image backup using Macrium Reflect Free; however, it doesn't seem to affect the restoral because everything seems just fine after same. Since I have never noticed these logs when running Win 8.0, I'm wondering if this is a brand new issue with 8.1? So, here is my Macrium Free version information and a copy of the Event ID 513 error log. Seeing this log on 8.1 or can confirm it is not present after an 8.0 backup.
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Apr 10, 2014
I'm planning on creating in addition to a CD a USB flash restore drive. The problem is that no where can I find how large of a flash drive do I need.
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Apr 14, 2014
So, I got a Inspiron 3537 i5. Nice laptop for it's price. Downloaded all the manuals, made my recovery DVDs. All was well in my world.
First thing I noticed is that there is no info in the manuals for tweaking the BIOS and since it is my first experience with a UEFI bios I was a bit disappointed. Is there a manual available for it?
Next I upgraded ATI Drivers to 13.12. I am an old user who always knew that updates were usually a good thing to do. Got in the same problem as many others with PC screen not waking up from sleep.
Thought I would do a recovery from the disk, but after trying various combinations (Ctl+F11, F8, F12 etc) I couldn't find a way to boot in the Recovery console. I did the recovery from my DVD and the laptop works fine.
How to add in UEFI bios a boot option to the Recovery partition? I undersstand that I have to create a new boot option using "Add boot option" and the two options available are to boot to the 1st (windows EFI) or 2nd (recovery partition), but the path for the recovery efi file to be loaded is unknown (+ you can't have access to the recovery partition to see the contents of it from windows).
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Nov 9, 2013
I have a Samsung Ultrabook series 5 laptop..some couple of month usage i completely remove my hard drive and change the windows 8 to windows 7..when i use windows 7 i realize windows 8 is much better then windows 7 so again i clean install of windows 8. i boot drive in PXE UEFI Only Mode. Some reserved partition created also 300MB Healthy Recovery Partition is Created.when i install a Samsung Recovery Solution Software it Says "Recovery Partition Does Not Exist"..What do i do.also when i refresh Pc it gives me Error "The Drive is Locked Where the Windows Installed" I want to make my Laptop like 1st time it was...
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Nov 29, 2013
This brand new HP Pavilion Laptop had a UEFI Boot entry in the BIOS.
I used the HP Support Assistant to update the HP functions and programs, and it downloaded a new UEFI diagnostic which it installed as a partition on the drive - It was already there to begin with, but the new version removed the entry "UEFI Boot" from the Bios Boot Selections and now it just says "OS Boot Manager"
Therefore, when I try to use "Advanced Start" options from PC Settings, I no longer get the options to go into Safe Mode or the other recovery options, the system just reboots and F8 does absolutely nothing.
Other than setting my BCD to Legacy Mode, I cant get this into Safe Mode.
I burned the recovery disks which were 6 DVDs, will that put the original OS back in? I do have the free 8.1 update available, maybe the new UEFI only works for 8,1? I'm just trying to figure out how to put the UEFI Boot option back in, the original UEFI tool cannot be downloaded from HP.
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Mar 18, 2013
I'm having nothing but epic failures when I try to image a Windows 8 box with Secure Boot enabled, that was installed using UEFI and has GPT partitions.
I can install using standard MBR, and disable Secure Boot and UEFI in the BIOS and I can restore that no problem.
However, I have been playing with Aomei, Macrium, EaseUs, etc to handle my image restores and not having any luck at all. Basically it's this thread that explains my issues almost perfectly.
Home user: Need Win 8 Disk Imaging solution with UEFI-compatible Startup Disks
I want to install Windows 8, using UEFI with Secure Boot, install patches, software, etc, then run sysprep, shut down, image and then deploy the image on the same make/model down the road.
The only real success thus far has been to load Windows 8, and then run imagex to capture a new wim and then install using that WIM. But that's a whole install, I'd rather just lay an image back down.
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Mar 3, 2013
I have a paid for version of Acronis True Image Home 2010 that I have used for years with my Windows 7 box and it's been good.
I've also used Macrium Reflect Free, and today I tend to use AOMEI ddata backuper as it's free for personal and commercial use.
I have a new Dell laptop (with Windows 8), and thus far I have disabled the UEFI boot options and Secure Boot and use a classic setup. However, if I wanted to have a play with these other options to see what impact they would have on system performance, which of these drive imaging software packages would work?
I also have a desktop at work with all of these options (and that's likely where I will experiment). On that box, it's simple to drop in a test hard drive and whack away until I get it working. My laptop has an msata drive and I don't have any spares of these drives lying around.
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May 9, 2013
My system specs are :
FX-8350
ASUS M5A97 R2.0 (UEFI motherboard)
CM thunder 500W
Radeon hd 7870
8 gb ram [800 mhz]
seagate barracuda 7200.12 1TB
and
seagate barracuda 7200.11 250 gb
I have installed windows 8 on the 1 TB hdd 200GB partition
The problem I am facing is: UEFI Boot takes longer time
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Aug 21, 2013
First, some context: I have a Dell Inspiron 15R SE that came with Windows 8.
I've managed to get a working dual-boot system with Ubuntu 12.10. I can't remember exactly how I done that, but I remember that I had to disable secure boot. I think that the boot configuration those days was:
Secure boot: DisabledLoad legacy option rom: EnabledBoot list option: Legacy
This "configuration" worked perfectly for 6-7 months.
Then, one day (last week, can't remember the exact day), when I was using Windows 8 the computer crashed. I hard-rebooted and got this screen:
After executed boot-repair from a Ubuntu LiveCD dozens of times I've decided to eliminate Ubuntu temporarily and focus to get a system with Windows 8 working nice.
Then I used my recovery DVDs to recover the system. Yup, Windows has booted. But when I restarted first time I got the same error. Then I, digging a solution, pressed F12 after a reboot and got here:
The highlighted option allows me to boot into Windows 8. So I went to boot options (F2) and changed the following configuration:
Load legacy option rom: DisabledBoot list option: UEFI
Now I can boot directly to Windows without need to press F12.
But my objective isn't complete. I want to erase all Ubuntu entries from the seconds image and restore the legacy boot from the first imagem (because they worked before).
I did two things:
I erased all partitions related to Ubuntu (root partition and home partition).I created a Windows recovery disk (not a system recovery disk).
I used the recovery disk to run the automatic recovery procedure (I forgot the exactly name). I've runned it at least 10 times with no success. Then I went to command prompt to try the famous triad: bootrec /fixmbr, bootrec /fixboot and bootrec /rebuildbcd. Still, no solution.
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Mar 24, 2014
After creating a UEFI bootable USB thumb drive with Rufus (using Windows 8.1 Enterprise ISO x64), for a Dell Optiplex 3010 (configured as UEFI only, no CSM, latest firmware version, Windows 8 installed), I didn't see a USB boot option, so I tried to add one manually. Unfortunately I erased the existing boot option (boot manager) by mistake. Although there were two boot options for PXE booting, the machine will not start anymore, even when there is an active WDS server on the network.
I also see Led's 2 and 3 lighting up, meaning according to the manual 'hardware ok but bios possibly damaged/corrupt'.
I understand I cannot start the machine from a bios boot disk because of GPT partitioning, and the UEFI USB boot disk I made might be corrupt (as it didn't show up as a boot option), however I don't understand why it won't boot from the PXE network card, as these boot options are still there.
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Jul 15, 2014
When trialling the Enterprise edition of Windows 8.1 I began to notice that my Windows Update history was often either empty or had just one or two entries in it. Strange ! Now as I was trialling Windows 8.1 at the time I was making extensive use of AOMEI freeware backup program and I began to have a suspicion that this was happening after each restore.
Anyway, I've just proved that this is indeed the problem. The two pictures show my update history and the history after having made a disk image and then restoring from that image. The installed updates list has been cleared apart from one entry.
I have a parallel installation on another PC that uses Acronis disk imaging and here there is no issue. All the updates are shown correctly.
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Apr 28, 2014
understand how to boot from my usb or dvd with UEFI.
I think I enable csm under boot then got to security and disable secure boot.
Then I get lost. Should I save and exit then go back to UEFI settings and select my new device and hit enter to boot or should this have been done earlier before the first save and exit?
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Sep 21, 2013
I have very little experience with Windows 8 until now. I am having an issue trying to run System Refresh or System Restore from the System Recovery Environment booted from the Windows disc. When I try to run it from the disc I already System Refresh says that the drive is locked. I tried System Restore and it said no OS's were found. I went into the CMD prompt and went to c: and can see the drive just fine.
Steps tried: running fixboot, fixmbr, rebuildbcd commands from CMDrunning dskchk /f (which forced a dismount)
I then read something about a non UEFI bootable disk couldn't access a GPT partition, which I think is the case here. So then I tried oscdimg to make my iso UEFI bootable (twice) and the UEFI Boot Manager still only shows 'Windows Boot Manager' at the boot menu. I even tried downloading an iso that was already UEFI incase I did it wrong and it still doesn't see it.
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Dec 19, 2012
On a new Win 8 laptop I can't boot from a USB flash drive or even a CD unless I turn off secure boot in the BIOS?
This surely can't be progress?
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Feb 11, 2014
How to A UEFI System using VHD. I was able to configure A UEFI system to boot from two different partitions one Windows 8.1 x64 & the second was Windows Server 2012 Rd. I want to do the same with VHD if possible.
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Jan 28, 2013
Is it possible not to have the partition "recovery"?
Because if you look at the two tutorials:
- UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Forums
- UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with
In the tutorial to install Windows 7 in UEFI, there is not that damn partition recovery, while in the tutorial for Windows 8, we can see it.
When I install Windows 7 (MBR mode), I avoid this partition "recovery" by creating a partition with a name before installation. I install the OS on it and everything is fine, no partition "recovery" But here, since one must delete all partitions, If I create a GPT disk with a partitioning tool before installing, is that it might be appropriate?
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Sep 19, 2013
I've made a UEFI Win8PE by WADK , then burn it to a CD. I boot normal and I can see X:WindowsSystem32.
I use EasyBCD to [Add New Entry] to append new boot item to existing Windows 8. The boot menu becomes like this :
Windows 8
Win8PE
But the Win8PE fail to boot with error message like insert Windows disc again ...... in the primary black and white screen.
Should I not to use EasyBCD to [Add New Entry] ? As I do the same thing in BIOs + MBR harddisk that booted perfect. In UEFI + GPT partition , do I better not to use EasyBCD , instead to use BCDEDIT , if so , what's the command line to do this with bcdedit ?
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Jul 26, 2014
I was using my laptop with everything going smoothly. USB port with adapter and CF card inserted. Ear buds in audio port. I decided to close the laptop which automatically puts the system in hibernate (or whatever it does when fast startup is active). Everything looked good. Now when I come back to it, open the lid and begin to startup from hibernate state it gets hung in the bootup and will not proceed. I have tried holding the power button to shut down and then restart -- no joy -- comes back to the same hung screen. Have tried holding various escape keys with startup -- no joy -- back to that same hung screen. Is there some way to bypass the hyberfil file which is probably corrupted, and get back to a full cold boot and restart from scratch?
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Jul 30, 2013
When I access my UEFI during startup, the Boot Priority section is either empty or shows unrelated drives attached. I can select the drive from which to boot by clicking on the Boot Menu, then clicking on the drive desired.
I purchased a new Intel SSD and installed it as the "C" and "D" drives and was happily booting from that SSD until I added new HDDs to my system. I now have four HDDs plus the SSD. One of those HDDs still contains the original Root C bootup and Windows 8 system on it. I frequently now find the system, reason unknown, may choose to boot from the HDD rather than the SSD.
I cannot find the method for directing the UEFI bootup menu/priority steps... my goal is to have the computer boot from the SSD, which if it were to fail, then would secondarily boot from the HDD original Root C.
The computer arbitrarily changes the SSD from drive designation "C:" to "J:" and the HDD to "C:"... how to specify the SSD as the "C:" unless it fails or is removed? the computer system info:
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Jan 10, 2014
Windows 8.1: HP Pavilion 2475ea Desktop PC.
I have Secure Boot turned off. I have Legacy Boot turned on, but do not think that is needed.
This link gives me instructions to boot from CD but they seem not to make sense from No 2... [URL] .....
In that at 5-6-7 it seems to require me to select the CD then boot to Windows from HDD then restart and do the same again, but this time select CD again, or something??
I expected to set the device, then restart the computer and it would boot from the device, not restart Windows as described. I was able to boot from a WinPE 4b CD.
I then decided to try changing boot order in the UEFI BIOS. From then on the HP (F9) described menu showed 'Windows Boot Menu' only under UEFI Devices. I could only boot from CD after putting the order back to 'Windows Boot menu' at the top of the order list; after which, as long as the CD was in the drive the (F9) list showed the CD drive as selectable to boot from.
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Jul 14, 2013
Windows 8. I am confused with the Legacy and the UEFI boot methods. The reason I am confused I think, is because I read to darn much on the Internet. One bit of confusion is with respect to changing from UEFI to Legacy. It would appear from some comments that if I do that, Windows 8 won't boot anymore. I would have to change back to UEFI for indows 8 to boot.
I also read that changing back to UEFI could be a major problem when trying to access the BIOS. No, I am confused. My ultimate goal is to set my laptop up to dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu. Like I have been doing for the last multiple years with XP and Windows 7.
Dell Inspiron 5721
Windows 8
Intel i7 @ 1.9 GHz
BIOS Version - Dell Inc. A06 2/22/2013
SMBIOS - 2.7
BIOS Mode - UEFI
Secure Boot State - On
Memory - 8 GB[/QUOTE]
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Dec 19, 2013
I got this 3F0 Error and i am 100% Sure that my HDD is in good shape. I formatted yesterday, I try to enable UEFi [Disables Legacy Boot] and the 3F0 Error Pops out.
If i switch back to Legacy Boot [Disables UEFI and Secure Boot] then the PC starts normally.
Pavillion HP 14 e019tx
8670M 2Gb Gddr3
3230m , Core i5
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Aug 9, 2013
I have my main nbook (MSI GT683R-261CS), which have UEFI (AMI Aptio). However when I try to install Windows to (pre-created) GPT GUID sytem boot partition, Windows installation program kicks me to balls, that it can't be installed there.
In UEFI setup, there is no option to switch between MBR and GPT boot. Is there any utility, which will tell me, if my machine supports booting from GPT GUID?
I proceed in creating system boot GUID GPT by something like this:
Code:
rescan
list disk
select disk[=n]
detail disk
list partition
select partition[=n/l]
detail partition
[code].....
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Jun 6, 2013
My notebook has a Win 8 OEM key in UEFI. After wiping my hard disc I want to install Win 8 retail instead of OEM version.
Because this is not possible with stored OEM Win 8 key I want to boot with a Win 7 BootCD and patch the UEFI with a Win 8 retail serial key.
For that I need a Program like SLIC which accomplish this task.
But where do I get this SLIC tool?
is there another way to enter a new Win 8 key into UEFI from Win 7?
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Mar 13, 2013
Laptop: ASUS UX31A-DB71, latest BIOS: 218
Originally my laptop came with Windows 7 and when i looked at disk management my disks were formatted with UEFI schema. One of my friend gave me a UEFI bootable USB drive loaded with Windows 8. So, i thought why not give it a try. So, I created a backup of my OEM Windows 7 and saved the iso files in a seperate external HD (created twice just to be sure . Now, i decided to load the Windows 8. Booted into the BIOS and there is an option to select the USB drive along with the UEFI option for that USB drive. I selected the UEFI option but some reason it does not boot into UEFI.
So I decided to select the standard USB install and this option let me install windows 8. In the process of installing i formatted the partitions and made a single partition and installed Windows 8 on it. I am guessing now the drive is not GPT but MBR. I also noticed that his installation USB disk had an option to select either 32bit or 64bit of Windows 8... Would Microsoft create a same iso file with both versions? I am guessing he created the USB from a illegitimate source.
I am planning on purchasing Windows 8 Pro version as an iso but wanted to be confident that it would work with UEFI architecture.
Questions:
1. Why would the system NOT boot from UEFI?
2. If I download the legitimate iso from Microsoft and wanted to install Window8 Pro via UEFI, I am sure i would have to format my SSD to GPT and how would i go about formatting it during installation?
3. How would i create a recoverable USB for my iso image i created for Windows 7 via ASUS AI Recovery. Do I need to follow the same procedure as stated in creating bootable USB disk (i.e. FAT32 system) via diskpart utility?
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Sep 19, 2013
I use a shortcut to restart Windows 8.1 to my UEFI BIOS. The problem is it goes through various screens and selections until I finally get to the one to boot to my UEFI. I was wondering id there was a way to boot directly to my UEFI without going through extra steps? Here's what I'm using now:
C:WindowsSystem32shutdown.exe -r -o -f -t 00
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