Screen Appears - Click OK To Terminate Program

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My husbands PC won't boot.the welcome (but without the welcome messege) and then the following error occurs"The Application failed to initialize properly (0x0000142) click OK to terminate program"We have no idea what this could be (the only recent changes made to the PC is a wireless connection, which was set up almost 2 weeks ago, so i am thinking that this isn't connected to the problem now?)....or how it has happened. My husband has tried to boot in safe mode and the welcome screen appears (again without welcome messege) and goes no further.

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Using a Toshiba Satellite 1800 Laptop 1GHz Intel P3 - BIOS Ver 1.90 04/18/2002.

The past week or two it seems that the computer locks up, the Task Manager shows the CPU running at 100%. It allows some activity all be it slow & shutting down all programs (which are not locked up) does not stop the activity - including disconnecting the internet. Have run Norton scan, Spybot S&D and Adaware with nothing of significance found. Ran HiJackThis and found some startup stuff and stopped them from running but I don't know enough about the programs that are running to remove them.

Last time I booted I had to force a shutdown after waiting for 15 minutes. Next reboot took 22 minutes for the CPU to back off of 100%. I started Task Mgr very early into the boot, just before the icons started to appear and it showed 33 processes running. I watched as 14 more started up all while the CPU was steady at 100% usage. Then at 5 minutes after booting the processor dropped to 50% bounced around for a minute then went back to 100%. There was some activity through the modem (cable) but not very much. I unplugged the modem power. I shut down Skype, MSN Messenger and MS Defender and about a minute later the CPU dropped to 27%. Nothing of what I shut down appeared to alter anything.

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Here is my latest HiJackThis log

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 1:09:55 PM, on 8/27/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:WINDOWSSystem32smss.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32winlogon.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32services.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32lsass.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32svchost.exe
C:Program FilesWindows DefenderMsMpEng.exe
C:WINDOWSSystem32svchost.exe
C:WINDOWSExplorer.EXE
C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccProxy.exe
C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccSetMgr.exe
C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityISSVC.exe
C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedSNDSrvc.exe
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C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccEvtMgr.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32LEXBCES.EXE
C:WINDOWSsystem32LEXPPS.EXE
C:WINDOWSsystem32spoolsv.exe
C:Program FilesSymantecLiveUpdateALUSchedulerSvc.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32crypserv.exe
C:Program FilesCommon FilesMicrosoft SharedVS7DEBUGMDM.EXE
C:WINDOWSSystem32svchost.exe
C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedCCPD-LCsymlcsvc.exe
C:WINDOWSSystem32Tablet.exe
C:WINDOWSSystem32MsPMSPSv.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32fxssvc.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32TPWRTRAY.EXE
C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccApp.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32wuauclt.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32ctfmon.exe
C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityNorton AntiVirus
avapsvc.exe
C:WINDOWSsystem32NOTEPAD.EXE
C:Program FilesMessengermsmsgs.exe
C:Program FilesHyjackThisHijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Start Page = http://www.rr.com
R1 - HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Default_Page_URL = http://www.rr.com
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Window Title = Microsoft Internet Explorer provided by Roadrunner
R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionInternet Settings,ProxyOverride = ;localhost
N3 - Netscape 7: user_pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://my.ca.msn.com/"); (C:Documents and SettingsFredApplication DataMozillaProfilesdefault9heli9dw.sltprefs.js)
N3 - Netscape 7: user_pref("browser.search.defaultengine", "engine://C%3A%5CProgram%20Files%5CNetscape%5CNetscape%206%5Csearchplugins%5CSBWeb_01 .src"); (C:Documents and SettingsFredApplication DataMozillaProfilesdefault9heli9dw.sltprefs.js)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:PROGRA~1SPYBOT~1SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:Program FilesJavajre1.5.0_06inssv.dll
O2 - BHO: ST - {9394EDE7-C8B5-483E-8773-474BF36AF6E4} - C:Program FilesMSN AppsST1.03.0000.1005en-xustmain.dll
O2 - BHO: CNisExtBho Class - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedAdBlockingNISShExt.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:windowsdownloaded program filesgoogletoolbar2.dll
O2 - BHO: MSNToolBandBHO - {BDBD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:Program FilesMSN AppsMSN Toolbar1.02.4000.1001en-camsntb.dll
O2 - BHO: CNavExtBho Class - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityNorton AntiVirusNavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton Internet Security - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedAdBlockingNISShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityNorton AntiVirusNavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: MSN - {BDAD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:Program FilesMSN AppsMSN Toolbar1.02.4000.1001en-camsntb.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:windowsdownloaded program filesgoogletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Tpwrtray] TPWRTRAY.EXE
O4 - HKLM..Run: [TFncKy] .TFncKy.exe /Type 10
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Apoint] .C:Program FilesApoint2KApoint.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [ccApp] "C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:PROGRA~1SYMNET~1SNDMon.exe /Consumer
O4 - HKLM..Run: [AcctMgr] .C:Program FilesNorton Password ManagerAcctMgr.exe /startup
O4 - HKLM..Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] .C:Program FilesJavajre1.5.0_06injusched.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [ViewMgr] .C:Program FilesViewpointViewpoint ManagerViewMgr.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [TosHKCW.exe] .C:Program FilesTOSHIBAWireless HotkeyTosHKCW.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [LVCOMS] .C:Program FilesCommon FilesLogitechQCDriver3LVCOMS.EXE
O4 - HKLM..Run: [LogitechImageStudioTray] .C:Program FilesLogitechImageStudioLogiTray.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [LogitechGalleryRepair] .C:Program FilesLogitechImageStudioISStart.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [00THotkey] .C:WINDOWSSystem320THotkey.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [BJCFD] .C:Program FilesBroadJumpClient FoundationCFD.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [HPDJ Taskbar Utility] C:WINDOWSSystem32spooldriversw32x863hpztsb07.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [PE2CKFNT SE] .C:Program FilesUlead SystemsUlead Photo Express 2 SEChkFont.exe
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Spyware Begone] .c:freescanfreescan.exe -FastScan
O4 - HKLM..Run: [tgcmd] ."C:Program FilesSupport.comin gcmd.exe" /server /nosystray /deaf
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Logitech Hardware Abstraction Layer] .KHALMNPR.EXE
O4 - HKLM..Run: [Windows Defender] "C:Program FilesWindows DefenderMSASCui.exe" -hide
O4 - HKLM..Run: [iTunesHelper] ."C:Program FilesiTunesiTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM..Run: [QuickTime Task] ."C:Program FilesQuickTimeqttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKCU..Run: [Popup Ad Filter] .C:Program FilesMeayaPopup Ad FilterPopFilter.exe
O4 - HKCU..Run: [msnmsgr] "C:Program FilesMSN MessengerMsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - HKCU..Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:WINDOWSsystem32ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU..Run: [Desktop Weather] .C:PROGRA~1THEWEA~1THEWEA~1.exe
O4 - HKCU..Run: [LDM] .C:Program FilesLogitechDesktop Messenger8876480ProgramBackWeb-8876480.exe
O4 - HKCU..Run: [Mozilla Quick Launch] ."C:Program FilesNetscapeNetscape 6Netscp.exe" -aim
O4 - HKCU..Run: [Yahoo! Pager] .C:Program FilesYahoo!Messengerypager.exe -quiet
O4 - HKCU..Run: [Skype] "C:Program FilesSkypePhoneSkype.exe" /nosplash /minimized
O6 - HKCUSoftwarePoliciesMicrosoftInternet ExplorerRestrictions present
O6 - HKCUSoftwarePoliciesMicrosoftInternet ExplorerControl Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Allow Popups - C:Program FilesMeayaPopup Ad FilterWhiteGetUrl.js
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:PROGRA~1MICROS~2OFFICE11EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:windowsdownloaded program filesGoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:Program FilesJavajre1.5.0_06inssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:Program FilesJavajre1.5.0_06inssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:PROGRA~1MICROS~2OFFICE11REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:Program FilesMessengermsmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:Program FilesMessengermsmsgs.exe
O12 - Plugin for .bcf: C:Program FilesInternet ExplorerPluginsNPBelv32.dll
O12 - Plugin for .nw3: C:Program FilesFormosa Industrial ComputingVPONLive
pwmh263.dll
O12 - Plugin for .nwa: C:Program FilesFormosa Industrial ComputingVPONLive
pwmado0.dll
O12 - Plugin for .nwj: C:Program FilesFormosa Industrial ComputingVPONLive
pwmjpg.dll
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:Program FilesInternet ExplorerPluginsNPDocBox.dll
O14 - IERESET.INF: START_PAGE_URL=http://www.rr.com
O16 - DPF: Portfolio - http://www.moneysense.ca/portfolio.cab
O16 - DPF: {01113300-3E00-11D2-8470-0060089874ED} (Support.com Configuration Class) - http://activation.rr.com/install/download/tgctlcm.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {2BC66F54-93A8-11D3-BEB6-00105AA9B6AE} (Symantec AntiVirus scanner) - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/S...in/AvSniff.cab
O16 - DPF: {644E432F-49D3-41A1-8DD5-E099162EEEC5} (Symantec RuFSI Utility Class) - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/S.../bin/cabsa.cab
O16 - DPF: {6CB5E471-C305-11D3-99A8-000086395495} - http://toolbar.google.com/data/en/de.../GoogleNav.cab
O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2...ll/xscan53.cab
O16 - DPF: {86FD6D12-E45F-4615-A787-C468F70C13DD} - http://beta.scour.com/common/client/...hangeSetup.cab
O16 - DPF: {917623D1-D8E5-11D2-BE8B-00104B06BDE3} (CamImage Class) - http://142.163.191.17/activex/AxisCamControl.ocx
O16 - DPF: {9A9307A0-7DA4-4DAF-B042-5009F29E09E1} (ActiveScan Installer Class) - http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/as5/asinst.cab
O16 - DPF: {9AF6E7AE-D248-11D2-BFAA-00805F2392C0} (Smi Class) - http://web14.compaq.com/falco/ScDmi.cab
O16 - DPF: {B9191F79-5613-4C76-AA2A-398534BB8999} - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yaho...tocomplete.cab
O16 - DPF: {C2FCEF52-ACE9-11D3-BEBD-00105AA9B6AE} (Symantec RuFSI Registry Information Class) - http://security1.norton.com/SSC/Shar.../bin/cabsa.cab
O16 - DPF: {CC05BC12-2AA2-4AC7-AC81-0E40F83B1ADF} (Live365Player Class) - http://www.live365.com/players/play365.cab
O16 - DPF: {E77C0D62-882A-456F-AD8F-7C6C9569B8C7} (ActiveDataObj Class) - https://www-secure.symantec.com/tech...ActiveData.cab
O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) - http://h30043.www3.hp.com/ps/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326
O16 - DPF: {F5C90925-ABBF-4475-88F5-8622B452BA9E} (Compaq System Data Class) - http://web14.compaq.com/falco/SysQuery.cab
O23 - Service: Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesSymantecLiveUpdateALUSchedulerSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccEvtMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccProxy.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccPwdSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedccSetMgr.exe
O23 - Service: ColdFusion MX Application Server - Unknown owner - C:Program FilesMacromediaCFusionMX
untimeinjrunsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: ColdFusion MX ODBC Agent - Unknown owner - C:Program FilesMacromediaCFusionMXdbslserver52inswagent.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: ColdFusion MX ODBC Server - Unknown owner - C:Program FilesMacromediaCFusionMXdbslserver52inswstrtr.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Crypkey License - Kenonic Controls Ltd. - C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32crypserv.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesInstallShieldDriver11Intel 32IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: iPodService - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:Program FilesiPodiniPodService.exe
O23 - Service: ISSvc (ISSVC) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityISSVC.exe
O23 - Service: LexBce Server (LexBceS) - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:WINDOWSsystem32LEXBCES.EXE
O23 - Service: LiveUpdate - Symantec Corporation - C:PROGRA~1SymantecLIVEUP~1LUCOMS~1.EXE
O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityNorton AntiVirus
avapsvc.exe
O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesNorton Internet SecurityNorton AntiVirusSAVScan.exe
O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:PROGRA~1COMMON~1SYMANT~1SCRIPT~1SBServ.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedSNDSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedSPBBCSPBBCSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedCCPD-LCsymlcsvc.exe
O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedSecurity CenterSymWSC.exe
O23 - Service: TabletService - Wacom Technology, Corp. - C:WINDOWSSystem32Tablet.exe

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Just removed a trojan with superspyware and now I cannot click on an Icon as to load a program. Non of the desktop icons have a shortcut and I cannot create a shirtcut on desktop. Same with itmes in my control panel

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My dad has a Sony Vaio labtop that he bought from his friend at work with the operating system and all the software already installed. It has a single account named Owner that he clicks on which usually allows him to log-on, he never had a password. He clicks the icon, it appears to start logging on then suddendly it will say logging off, saving settings, then returns us back to the main log-on screen.I tried to start in safe mode by pressing F8 while the computer is intially turning on, but all the labtop does is make this loud beeping noise and starts up normally. No screen appears for me to select safe mode or anything.

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I have given my sister my old Averatec laptop that has Windows XP on it. While she is using it, eventually a blue screen appears, which is the precursor to it restarting suddenly. It happens so fast that we cannot read what the blue screen says. After it starts back up, we get a microsoft report saying a serious error has occured. This might not help, but I'll list it just in case. The error signature is:Is this a virus? If so, is there any hope without reformatting? I accidentally uninstalled the program that contained the OS files when I first got the computer.

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I keep a clean computer. Every day virus updates and scans, defrags, etc. I probably go overboard to make sure this rig stays healthy.But it's my lifeline to the world.
I'm in a third world country with no computer help at all...Barely a connection at time.That being said.3 times now when I boot up the computer runs through it's cycles, goes to the Windows XP page, and then absolutely nothing. Just a blank screen.
The same happens even when trying to go to safe-mode or debug. I'm lucky it's even working now.I've saved all my information.

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Start Up Splash Screen Appears Blank

Jul 18, 2005

I have tried looking for a solution on the web for this and I can’t seem to find anything that quite matches my problem. I have a Dell Inspiron 2500 which is a few years old. I have not recently installed anything new onto it or added new hardware or anything, but the other day i switched it on and it appeard to be starting up fine. The Dell screen comes up, the Windows startup splash screen appears then the screen goes blank. The laptop continues to load properly (i think) as you can hear the start up music and everything loading up, but the screen is blank, (tho the colour of it down change to a slight lighter shade of black!).

I have tried outputting to a different monitor - which does exactly the same as the laptop screen - displaying the start-up stuff then blank screen before the login bit. When i start up the laptop in safe mode and VGA mode it works fine. I have tried changin the resolution in these modes to a lower one 600x800 (the refesh rate is set to 60) but this does not solve the problem. I have installed all recommended XP updates, scanned for viruses and spyware but there’s nothing there, tried to use the troubleshooting tools in Help and Support but not really sure what imdoing and it says everything is fine! sort of hardware failure with my graphics card maybe?! Dont know much about that sort of thing.

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Jan 7, 2006

Every once in a while my pc acts really nutty. What happens is that I'll go to open a program (lets say Nero Burning Rom) and on a single double click Nero will open up 70+ times. Furthermore, it makes mostly all of my programs act up when this starts happening. For example, when I click the arrow in the system tray it expands and collapses tons of times before it stops. If I open Firefox my homepage sort of half loads over and over and won't stop. MSN Messenger opens up then freaks out when I put the pointer in its window (this happens in the above Firefox example too). All of this activity makes the pc unusable until it all stops. Speaking of when it stops, it does't stop with a restart, it just stops mid session. I thought it could be a mouse problem because the trackball I use is pretty ancient and I figured it just might have just petered out finally, but then I tried another mouse that I found laying around and it did the same things. One other thing I've noticed it (the trackball) doing is when it's not being used the pointer slowly crawls towards the top of the screen. I've run my anti-virus and all three of my spyware programs and none of them find anything out of the ordinary. So what could be causing this? I'm starting to think it might be my mouse port, but how would I find this out?

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Jan 30, 2007

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Nov 11, 2007

Recently cleaned up a friend's very infected machine. The jury is still out as to how much damage was done (specifically to the registry), but something weird is going on. When I right click the C drive in My Computer, the EZ CD Creator 5 install program starts executing. I didn't see a autorun.inf file or on the drive which is the only thing I can think of. Any ideas?

Figured I'd add some more info. I've installed a second drive to take backups to. Backup of 12G of data to the drive while the OS was up took 1.5 hours, took much less from an emergency disk, weird. XP SP2 256K memory. I'm also getting a windowformsparkingwindow popup on a shutdown. Reasonably sure this is due to HP stuff on the machine. Java is busted up but I wanted to start getting the backups going before uninstalling that and reinstalling.

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