Build 9369 - Start Screen MORE USEABLE Now
Apr 18, 2013
One thing I'm finding GREAT on the latest build (x-64 build 9369) is the little button at the bottom of the START screen.
Forget the stupid metro tiles etc -- just click the button and it lists ALL the apps and then you can optionally have these sorted by Install date or Most used.
This in some situations obviates any need for going directly to the desktop -- you can just click on your desired application and run it. - This would suggest to me that the Desktop as a separate application is destined for the Bin sooner rather than later.
I would perhaps like a little more selections in the APP sort screen but if you don't have gazillions of apps it's actually quite useable.
Here's what I mean -- two screenshots enc.
And of course the search window is open if you want to type a specific thing -- say W* for example if you can't quickly see Ms Word for example.
If Ms keep on a bit with this it *might* just possibly morph into something quite useable.
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Jan 26, 2013
I am using a MacBook Pro i7 processor with 8GB of ram. The 8GB is all useable using OSX Mountain Lion. However using Bootcamp and booting to Windows 8 It's only using 2.16GB. It says 8 is available but only using 2.16 (See attached photo). How can I fix this? I am using Windows 8 Pro 32 bit btw.
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Dec 14, 2013
I've tried just about everything, but can't seem to find a setting to stop this action. The screen on my laptop (Sony Flip 15A, intel4400/geforce735) seems to increase and decrease in brightness between screens. It's rather annoying not just because of the change, but also because it takes several seconds to occur and it occurs in discrete steps. I'm running the latest drivers from both intel and nvidia. I've tried turning off adaptive brightness and disabling the sensor service, and all effects (fade in, UAC, etc) have been turned off. A video of the condition is shown below:
(Vimeo was taking forever to process)
It even happen when no programs are opening/closing - for example, if I view a dark background web page and then a lighter background, the brightness shifts. I can't imagine how awful this will be in photoshop.
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Jun 11, 2014
Can I have icons on the Start screen that do not show up on the Apps screen ?
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Mar 11, 2014
In Windows 8.1 do the on screen notifications only show on the Start screen?
I'm talking about the big ones I see with the black bar, such as low battery warning.
Twice I've been on the desktop and I never got a low battery warning. To test I made sure I was on the Start screen and sure enough the warning popped up. Also, when I switched over to the desktop the battery icon showed the exclamation point where I don't think it ever did when always on the desktop.
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Mar 18, 2014
As I understand it, when I it the Windows key or mouse-click lower left while in the desktop, it is supposed to take me to the Start Screen. Indeed, it did work this way for some time. However, now, when I do either, it takes me to the Apps Screen and I have to do something (one of several) to switch to the Start Screen. Once there, if I hit Windows key or click lower left repeatedly, it goes Start Screen -> Apps Screen -> Desktop -> Apps Screen -> Desktop, etc. I think this is wrong. It is certainly not what I want; but my searching has not run across any other mention of this behavior. I don't want it to go to the Apps Screen when I hit Windows key or click in lower left. I only want to go there if I specifically do something to get there from the Start screen. (E.g., little arrow, Ctrl-Tab) How do I get back to the Start Screen being the default choice between these two?
The behavior changed some time after I upgraded to Windows 8.1; but I am not sure if it was immediately after. I suspect not. I've only had the computer for a week, so I am still becoming accustomed to Windows 8. (Coming from XP and 7 and having read a lot of negative comments, I was expecting that I would hate Windows 8. As it turns out, I don't understand the presumed problems. The functionality of Windows 7 is still there. The Start Screen is actually nicer than the Start button
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Mar 17, 2013
My first build and am having problems with windows booting extremely slow, running buggy and shutting down on me randomly. It typically shuts down during strenuous tasks such as gaming and installation, but has shut down in the UEFI bios, once. When I boot back up I almost always get to the sign in menu but after putting in my password it takes a good 3-5 minutes before the start menu pops up. Sometimes it'll load up to a black screen where I can only use the mouse pointer, and access the task manager. Wondering if it's my motherboard or if it's just a driver problem. Running an ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 with an AMD 8350 black and an Sapphire 7870 XT with two sticks of cheap 4 GB 1333 MHz ram.
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Jan 12, 2013
I put Windows 8 back on yesterday, and the build number was not on the bottom right.
However, today I installed Media Center, and now I see Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Build 9200. Why did this all of a sudden appear? How do I remove it?
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Aug 3, 2013
I am considering using Windows 8 on a new HTPC build.
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Feb 12, 2014
Some time ago, it is possible, in msconfig.exe you could Expand file and select .cab, then, you could save as .msu wherever you want.
Right now, with Windows 8.1, there is anyway to build .msu from .cab update?
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Aug 19, 2013
i just install win 8.1 build 9471 but i can not activate it with any tools
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Jan 22, 2013
Here's How:
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Dec 22, 2012
Windows 8 start screen is not loading? I am using task manager to open my computer and everything else?
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Oct 25, 2013
When I try to add a shortcut to the start screen I get a message 'No such interface supported' When I install a new program or game it wont add the shortcut to the start menu even if I have ticked 'add shortcut to start menu. All games and programs run fine, I just cant add a shortcut. How to solve it?
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Oct 3, 2013
I can't seem to find any way to lock my start screen once I get my apps organized and just the way I want them. Is there no way to lock your apps so that they can't be rearranged by someone? If not then that seems like a glaring omission. I spend a great deal of time arranging it and then my three year old comes along and messes it all up. I would like to prevent this. I know I can create a user password and just not let any use on it.
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Jan 8, 2013
At least Windows 8 makes it easy to create a Start Screen tile for a program, or for a folder. But if you have a FILE that you open often (like a Word file, a Notepad file, or a PDF) and you want a tile to open it, there's no ready-made way to create one.
But you can do it this way. Open your Start Menu folder, which is C:Users(Your Username)AppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindowsStart MenuPrograms (It's a hidden folder, so just paste the above path into the File Explorer address bar.)
Then open the folder containing your file. Right-click the file's icon and select "Copy." Then right-click in the Start Menu folder and select NOT "Paste," but "Paste Shortcut."
This makes the shortcut look like an "App" to Windows 8, so if you then go to the Metro Search Screen and search for "Apps" it will come up there, and you can right-click it and "Pin to Start."
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Oct 19, 2012
When I am away from the computer for maybe an hour or more and come back, the Start Screen will not operate, I have to keep rebooting my machine. It is getting frustrating. I have changed the settings to NOT allow hibernation of the computer to include the hard disk drive when not in use; however, the Start Screen after non-use does not want to work, freezes. What can I do?
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Jan 3, 2013
I was hoping to get the start screen to be transparent so that it simply overlays the traditional desktop and windows. I think this would give win8 on a desktop a much more complete feel.
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Jul 17, 2013
I am searching for a document from the Start Screen, then I click files to see the list of docs. When I click on a doc to open it, it goes into desktop mode to view the Word doc. After viewing the file, how do I get back to the list of search results? It seems like I have to recreate the search everytime after viewing a file.
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Mar 21, 2014
When I am in my start screen and I touch my desktop tile to get into my desktop I don't get into it. I either get into IE or into the last website I have been in and not closed. Can I sort this out?
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Oct 22, 2013
I have Win 8.1 Enterprise and would like to use the built in NFS. I activated the NFS services in the additional windows via control panel, the NFS service is running in the task manager but still cannot mount the drives as NFS. ..
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Nov 11, 2013
I recently had a computer custom built at my local Fry's (not so local though..) 2 weeks ago.
On the second day, the CPU was BSOD hourly, and after bring it to Fry's, they said the power supply was bad, and they replaced it.
I'm still having issues with random BSOD and would rather not bring it to Fry's to have them trouble shoot it for a few days, replace the "bad" component, and give it back to me with the same issue.
My CPU and Motherboard temps average 30-35c even while gaming.
I'm beyond the "return" time frame and only have 2 weeks of build support left from Fry's.
Here are my CPU specs
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Mar 30, 2014
I just put together a new 8.1 system and it seems to randomly BSOD me every few hours. It also has had issues with Windows Update - still not updating KB2919907.
...not sure if they are related.
I've update all the MoBo drivers as well as the BIOS.
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Oct 20, 2013
I have done a fresh install of Windows 8.1 Pro Build 9600 using a genuine MSDN ISO.
After the installation was complete i did all the updates and after that i decided to activate.
The activation was a success and the watermark disappeared but after a restart it came back on my desktop.
If in CMD i type "slmgr/xpr" it says widows is permanent activated so how come the watermark is still there?
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Feb 11, 2013
So I have searched for answers, updated drivers the best I can and disabled certain things (such as setting the SSD to never sleep) yet I still have intermittent problems when waking my new build from sleep overnight.
I find it simply wakes and the network connection icon says disconnected and the whole thing is froze before it just powers down, loosing all the things I left open.
Here is a zip from win 8 file collector logs: download
(i7 pc, based on an Asus P8Z77-V LX with Intel SSD..)
Here is the log entry for restart just before extracting the logs:
"Event[2719]: Log Name: System
Source: EventLog
Date: 2013-02-11T09:12:58.000
Event ID: 6008
Task: N/A
Level: Error
Opcode: N/A
Keyword: Classic
User: N/A
User Name: N/A
Computer: ideal-server
Description:
The previous system shutdown at 15:01:00 on ?09/?02/?2013 was unexpected."
Not sure where to go from there as it froze without error??
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Oct 29, 2012
I just wanted to know the build number of Windows 8 Retail. I mean the one that released Oct 26th.
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersion"
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Nov 12, 2013
have been having crashes with my newly built PC at various stages in setting the computer up. if my technical language is lacking.
My System
CPU: AMD FX 6300
GPU: Gigabyte ATI HD7870 OC Ed
Mobo: ASRock 970-PRO3.R2
RAM: G SKill 8G(2x4G) DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800(GS-F3-1600C9D-8GAO)
SSD: Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO
HDD: Seagate 1TB Barracuda
PSU: Antec NEO 520C ECO 80Plus Bronze
Windows 8.1
First noticed issues when on the initial installation of windows 8.1 there was a hang while it was showing the blue windows logo. Multiple attempts led to me reaching various stages of setting up the computer, i.e. installing all latest drivers, BIOS and firmware for the hardware and installing a number (but never all) of the available windows updates. Through out the process I experienced frequent BSOD (generally within second or minutes of logging into the user) that did not appear to be initiated by anything in particular. Hangs were frequent when attempting windows updates (happened during 'checking for updates', 'downloading updates' and 'installing updates' on shutdown). Examples of the types of BSOD experienced.
CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error
SYSTEM_THREAD_EXTENSION_NOT_HANDLED
KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
PAGED_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Attempts at fixing the issue included fresh windows 8.1 installs (where crashes/hangs during installation off disc were experienced), resitting RAM, installing windows on HDD by itself (as opposed to SSD by itself), running startup repair tools (various times did not detect a problem or could not fix). Problems continued in various frequencies at various stages no matter the attempted fixes.
Windows 7 Suspecting compatibility issues between the hardware drivers and windows 8.1, a fresh install of Windows 7 was attempted. This has been more stable on installing drivers but on attempting windows updates the same update problems were experienced in the forms of hangs rather than BSOD, the only BSOD error that has come up on occasion is 'a clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval'. This BSOD has interrupted the installation (on shutdown) of windows updates on the rare occasion they manage to download in their entirety. More frequent crashes was also experienced after updating to the latest GPU driver. Installing the latest mobo AMD All in 1 driver from ASRock (contains AMD Catalyst Install Manager, AMD SATA AHCI Driver, AMD USB Fillter Driver) causes windows to freeze on restart at the Starting Windows page with windows logo but seems to function OK after restart.
Troubleshooting for windows updates including running check disk and windows update diagnostic tool which did not appear to show or fix issues.
Startup repair was also attempted and provided the following Root cause found: Unknown Bugcheck: Bugcheck 101. Parameters = 0x21, 0x0, 0xfffff88002f65180, 0x2. Not sure if that means anything.
At the moment the PC has windows 7 installed onto the SSD, latest lan/usb/audio drivers and microsoft security essential (antivirus) installed with only 2 windows updates installed: Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB2621440) Update for Microsoft Windows (KB976902)
This appears to be stable, but attempts at windows update and installing the mobo driver causes the problems mentioned above. I have been using the current setup as a restore point.
The below minidump is within the context of the 'stable' config + latest mobo AMD All in 1 driver and the BSOD occurred while installing windows updates before shutdown.
Bananaking.zip
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Apr 29, 2014
I have a problem with my windows 8.1.
I usually able to use Right click and I can put my Application to my start screen but today I unable to do that and I don't know why ?
I right on my app but nothing happen . only check mark appear
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Oct 28, 2013
After showing Administrative tools they are all listed as "NEW"; how can I get rid of that word "NEW". Launching each & every one is not really what I intend to do. Isn't there a registry key for this ?
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Nov 1, 2012
Playing around with Win 8 and found that it's not easy to pin a file or a web site (if you're not using IE) to the new start screen. Some have suggested downloading a nice little utility that will do the job, but I always try to avoid having a lot of single purpose, rarely used utilities.
Here's a way to accomplish the same task that I discovered by some trial and error.
Go to the desktop. Create a shortcut to an app (firefox if you want to pin a web site, excel if you want to pin a spreadsheet, etc.), giving the shortcut the name of the file or web site you want to pin to the start screen.
Once the shortcut to the app is created, right click on the shortcut, click properties. Go to the target line and add a space, then within quotes add the website or the file you want to access (if a file, add the entire file path and file name).
Click Apply
Right click the shortcut and you will now see the "Pin to Start" option. Click this option.
You can now delete the shortcut on the desktop (unless you want to keep the shortcut on the desktop and the start screen).
Go to the start screen. You will see the new shortcut which executes with a single click or touch.
Examples of a website shortcut Target line and file shortcut Target line are shown below.
"C:Program Files (x86)Mozilla Firefoxfirefox.exe" "http://www.eightforums.com/"
"C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft OfficeOffice12EXCEL.EXE" "C:UsersUserNameDocumentsExcelFileFolderSampleFile.xlsx".
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Dec 14, 2013
Title says it all. You can restart Windows explorer via task manager, but can I do the same with start screen? Because I changed the amount of tile rows on it, but I have to log off. Unfortunately, I am running a server which people are on currently and I'd hate having to wait a couple more hours to try this..
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