SP3 NTDetect And Slow Boot
Nov 7, 2008
After procrastinating for a while, I decided to finally install SP3. Installation went fine, no problems until the reboot at the end. When this happened, after the bios screen appeared, the monitor went black with no apparent activity.Thinking I had a bootup issue, I booted to the Recovery Console and ran Chkdsk and Fixboot. No difference. Then, reset the bios to defaults, and again no difference. I then decided to just reboot and let it sit there. (with fingers crossed).15 minutes later after the initial bios screen, the XP screen and updating bar appeared and seconds later I was at the desktop!
What appears to be happening is that the hardware detection phase of the boot process (NTLdr and NTDetect) are taking an exhorbitant amount of time (doing something!).I am confused as to what SP3 install could have done to start this off, but more importantly I am looking for suggestions as to the underlying cause and solution.
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Aug 30, 2007
It started with the NTLDR is missing error,so I load the recovery console and prepare to copy it to the drive when I notice ALL the boot files are missing, in fact every file on the root of C drive is gone.So I make a boot disk from my lap top copy the boot files to the disk and give this a try. Boots fine and seems to run perfect. Copy the boot files to the C drive, reboot numerous times, all good so I go home, leaving him the boot disk and showing him what to do just in case.
Next day same thing, What we seem to have determined is that the files seem to disappear later in the evening. I had him run all the pgms he normally does for a good while, quit the pgm and check C. The files are still there. after a few hours of fooling around he leaves PC on and goes watch TV. Comes back about 11:00pm to turn off PC, checks C drive and they're gone again. He re copies the files, shuts down and goes to bed.Next day PC boots fines before work, after work etc... BUT some time later in the evening it happens again.
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Apr 22, 2008
My ntdetect.com file is missing(I believe it wound up in the recycle bin). I have read through pretty much every pre-existing thread on the subject. I have downloaded and make a disk of xpprobt.exe as suggested by one, and after a minute on uncomfortable waiting it spouts out that hal.dll is missing. I created an ms-dos diskette to try and copy the files manually to where they belong(I have a copy of hal.dll also) But I may not be the right disk, seeing as it was created on an XP sys. and the one not working is 2000 SP4. When loading the ms-dos disk it flashes an ME(?) logo. Not sure why but W/E Unfortunatly nothing but the dir ms-dos command actually Does anything, and trying to copy the files(yes, I used the correct command line) yields an Invalid Drive Specification Error(?) for some god-awful reason. Now i'm wondering what else I could do to fix it.
I have the links to the official microsoft boot disks and boot disk essentials here:
http://freepctech.com/pc/002/files010.shtml
Some of the other threads have other posted URL's for fixes; this is the only link still working at this time. I will be attempting to troubleshoot it myself using microsoft and disk essentials files on the site, while continuing to search the forums for any other posts related to this. Anyone know of a sure-fire quick fix that they could post that may not exist elsewhere on the site(or at the least, save time trying to find it)?
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