Unable To Format NTFS Partition With Allocation Unit Size Of 512B
Sep 23, 2012
This is an issue with trying to use the Windows Backup utility with an external hard drive (Seagate GoFlex Desk) with more than 2TB of storage (in this case 3TB). I have looked into this and found that this is a common problem related to the backup utility being unable to deal with drives that have a 4kb allocation unit size. The typical advice is to reformat with an allocation size of 512B, which it will be able to work with.
The problem is that Windows will not let me reformat with that size. The smallest unit it allows is 4kb, which is exactly the problem. If I initiate the format dialog on other NTFS drives I have, 512B shows up as an option. Just not on my external. And yet, this solution appears all over the place and people have claimed it solved their problem. I have even (twice) tried creating a second partition on the external (1.5TB and then 1TB), neither has allowed an allocation unit size less than 4k, even though my 1TB internal drive did allow this.
I am not really interested in third party backup or imaging programs. With my old 500GB external, I used the Windows Backup utility to make a few system images and there have been at least two situations where a bad driver or something has resulted in having to go back to a restore point, but finding no suitable ones available, and thus restoring to the backup image. This has been the simplest way of recovering from these disasters and it has worked every time. For normal file backups, I have a number of cloud storage systems and I can use the software Seagate included with the drive. However, the one and only reason I got a hard drive this large is that it would allow me to make a lot of Windows system images, and that is the one thing I am unable to do. I do not understand why I cannot use the one fix everyone online recommends. I have emailed Seagate tech support about this but they have not responded.
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Jan 25, 2011
I am using Win 7 Pro x32 and have partitioned my hard drive into two NTFS partitions. One is for my Windows other one is for my files and personal documents.I'd like to know how to format the partitions in terms of cluster size. I read a lot of articles which didn't actually answer my question - what are the differences between formatting with a big and small cluster size, and how does all that influence the overall performance. I should also mention that I am willing to sacrifice some bits and bytes from my partitions, if needed, as long as I could somehow increase performance. Also, I noticed that the standard Windows 7's formatting dialogue allows to format a partition only with a limited size of clusters compared to trying to format a partition using software such as Acronis Disk Director or Paragon Hard Disk Manager where I was able to format with a much greater cluster size. What to do, what to do...? You could save the small talk such as - 'small cluster size wastes less disk space but works slower, and vice versa, greater cluster size wastes more space but gives better performance'.
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Aug 20, 2012
I bought a 16gb Kingston Datatraveler USB drive. I want to format it and I'm unsure as to what Allocation Unit Size I should choose. My options are:
Default
4096 bytes
8192 bytes
16 kilobytes
32 kilobytes
64 kilobytes
8192 bytes is selected when I choose format.
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Mar 23, 2012
on my netbook there is C drive which is FAT 32 and D drive which is NTFS. the thing is i have windows xp dualbooting windows xp (i know its weird). i am only using C drive so i want to format the D drive and merge it with C drive so i can have more space. the thing is it doesnt let me delete it. i tried using Easus Partition manager, but there was no delete option or anything like that. i cant use the CD because mine is a netbook. also booting from USB does not work because my computer is old and it doesnt support booting from usb in BIOS.
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I am in the process of formating a second 300 GB disk drive in windows 7 64 and don't know what file allocation size to use.
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I am unable to reduce the size of my OS(C) partition to desired size. I've written my recovery disks in case of any problems.
The Shrink C box shows available shrink size is 0. I understand this is because there are unmovable files in the way. One post I saw said to disable system recovery. This is a brand new machine that I want to make dual boot Windows and linux. Want only about 80GB for Windows and 300 for linux. I also saw where someone suggested to use ghost program, then wipe C drive clean and reinstall Windows OS on smaller partition. Sounds drastic.
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Sep 5, 2011
My drive passed SMART extended self test that scans the entire disk surface. Is the full format with command FORMAT FS=NTFS overkill?
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I'm going to fix my partition set-up (for example removing the one with Vista) and would like to know how much I should allocate to the partition with 7. (At the moment it's 32 GB.)
I am going to keep my files on a different partition. But what about the "program files"? Is it "better" to have them on the same partition as windows 7 or not? How big "should" the 7 partition be?
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Feb 10, 2011
I recently upgrade my entire computer, with it i brought a 2TB WD HDD. I set everything up, installed Windows 7 and updated all my drivers/etc.
I then moved my old 3x 1TB drives over, in it, one partition had my old Windows 7, I am unable to format/delete windows folder/program files. One HDD had my old Vista partition, same story..i can't format/delete.
What i basically want to do is, take those 3 drives, format and re-set them into 1TB 1 Parition drives. Now i have 1.6TB space left on my 2TB drive, so i can put one entire drive over and format the old, repartition to 1...
How can i get about this? I don't understand why the boot system will have problems because when i installed Windows 7 it had no other drives to see..
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Dec 27, 2009
im having this prob where a total of 40GB of space out of 160Gb in my HD cant be formatted. I were using Windows Vista before upgrading it into Win 7....
I had 3 partitions ( c:, d:, & N... All 3 of it works perfectly. The only problem im facing here is with this 40GB of free space which i couldn't Format in anyway.. it keeps on bugging me with this warning of "not enough space to complete operation" thingy...
Here is an image of it, where the green colored free space (39.06Gb)... cant be formatted.
I tried Formatting it while the Windows 7 installation process, yet, i still couldn't do anything.
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Jan 18, 2010
The only Problem I am having now is being able to format the partition with Vista still on it. For some reason I just can't get rid of it.
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May 9, 2011
I have a second hard drive that is formatted FAT32 and I need to reformat it to NTFS so I can install Windows XP as a dual boot option. It shows 146GB of 148GB free space; however, when I open the drive it says "This folder is empty". I once had Ubuntu installed and reformatted the drive, but it may be hidden somewhere on the drive. I have tried to reformat by right clicking the drive letter and using the format command, but I get an error message "Windows cannot format this drive. Quit any disk utilities or other programs that are using this drive, and make sure no window is displaying the contents of the drive. Then try formatting again.". When I check the drive for contents using CMD it says "Volume in drive is New Volume Directory of D: File Not Found". When I try to format D: from the C: prompt, it says "Access Denied as you do not have sufficient privileges. You have to invoke this utility running in elevated mode." I am logged on as Administrator
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Mar 12, 2010
I have Windows 7 on my main machine and am using a spare drive right now. Power went out and when I turned my computer back on, it wouldn't start so I removed the HDD and plugged it into test computer which was when I found it had become a RAW file system.Alright, so basically I'm wondering how I should convert my RAW drive back into NTFS so I can use it again and I'm not interested in retrieving information as I had nothing of value on that drive, because all important stuff is on my storage drive - which is 1TB in size. I have tried a variety of methods including.
1. Using Disk Management, even though it recognizes it and shows it as a RAW format - I am unable to format it as it gives me a "Format could not be succesfully completed" error message, also deleting and making new partitions has no effect.
2. Tried using DOS to convert it from RAW to NTFS
3. Tried using programs like PTDD Partition Table Doctor and EASUES Partition Master to rebuild the partitions, fix the Master Boot Record and then convert to either FAT32 or NTFS (if it's FAT32 I'll convert it to NTFS afterwards)
4. Tried to format from the "My Computer" window via right-clicking and selecting "Format"
5. According to TestDisk I have 0 partitions and when I do a deep search it forks of a load of read errors. :
As far as I know, PPTD Partition Table Doctor tells me that there sector count is incorrect and that the MBR is in the the wrong section.If you want my system specifications, Here:
Windows 7 64-bit
AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3.2GH
6GB DDR2 RAM 667
BFG GTX 260 (216) OCX
1TB Green Cavier Western Digital
80GB Seagate Barracuda (Now in RAW format)
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Aug 30, 2012
I had to use my thumb drive to upload files to a Mac, so I reformatted the drive to FAT32. Now I'm trying to get it back to NTFS so I can use again on my Win 7 machine, but the drive is not even showing up in My Computer.
The Drive shows in Device Manager and in Disk Management, but offers me no option to format.
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Dec 14, 2012
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I had a Windows 7 installation, x64 and recently I installed windows XP, quit Windows 7 for a while. I have a big problem, I have a 160GB SATA2 Maxtor HDD, I first formatted/part'ed when I had installed windows7, and now being back to my xp I cannot browse the partition, the driver letter appears but I cannot access the information, i put the drive in another computer running Windows 7 and all the data was accessible. I tried like a ton of part. managers and no luck so far.
My question is how can I convert my partition back to NTFS from extFS or WinFS?
Google didn't helped me at all, it's been 2 days since I am looking for a solution to this, no result on google (or this forum or other forums for that matter) will give me a compatible partition manager/tool or I am unable to find the keywords for it.
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Feb 28, 2012
i have new flopy drive when i m formatting its showing the error that windows is unable to format the drive
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Sep 6, 2011
I wanna re-size my partition disks. I have C: and D:, I want to shrink C's volume, and extend D's, is it possible without a format? If so, how? (I don't care if it needed a 3rd party program).If I need to do a format to get this done, how to?
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I was wondering what's a good size for a Windows 7 pagefile partition? I have Windows 7 installed on my primary drive (OS) and decided to make a 7GB pagefile partition on my secondary drive as I heard it is better to have the pagefile on a different hard drive. I have 6GB of memory installed if it makes any difference.
Is 7GB enough? I noticed the partition already gets filled up so I had to disable that annoying "hard drive disk space is low" balloon notifications that kept popping up.. people are getting away with having no pagefile so I figured 7GB would be more than enough?
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Dec 9, 2010
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