In-place Upgrade With Retail / OEM / OSB / SB Versions
Nov 23, 2009
Is the in-place upgrade to Windows 7 possible with
a) retail versions
b) OEM / OSB / SB version?
Or do I have to buy this special "upgrade version"?
I only get contradictorily information (very frustrating!) and need advice from your side.
P.S. Yes, I know about the pros and cons in general regarding in-place upgrade vs. clean installation.
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Jul 11, 2009
can i somehow use my vista disc at some point to allow the Windows 7 retail install to upgrade the Windows 7 RC AND NOT HAVE TO REINSTALL MY PROGRAMS?
i currently have vista 32 bit home premium. i have the install discs for it too.
i want to create another partition and put Windows 7 RC 64 bit on it (dual boot).
i have Windows 7 home premium pre ordered.
i want to upgrade Windows 7 RC to the retail when it comes out, WITHOUT REINSTALLING MY PROGRAMS.
i read the Windows 7 retail discs will allow you to upgrade the Windows 7 RC, but you will have to reinstall programs.
i am wondering if using the vista disc will allow me to upgrade and keep my programs.
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Feb 12, 2010
I was looking at getting windows 7 and hoping to do clean installs on a couple of machines and don't know which version to choose. I was looking at the w7 professional upgrade because I read that you can do a clean install with the upgrade disc and it's cheaper but I was not sure because I have an xp pro upgrade disc which says in the manual you can do a clean install but I could not (tried to put it on my laptop and do a clean install over vista but wouldn't let me.)
If you can do that, what is the difference between an upgrade clean install and the regular install disc? My other question is, if I buy the full retail version how many machines can I install it on and will they go into non genuine mode after the product key is used once?
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Aug 9, 2010
is it possible to do an in place upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit using full retail DVDs. I know I will have to update progs to 64Bit but there is plenty else which will not be affected.
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Dec 6, 2009
A simple guide to a successful in-place upgrade
You have most likely heard that a clean (custom) install is the preferred install method when migrating to Windows 7. That is most certainly true. However, there are situations when in-place upgrade is more practical method to use. Tens, maybe hundreds of gigs software installed, no install media found for the software and so on.
You might have heard horror stories about non-working Seven and how it’s all in-place upgrade’s fault, or how an in-place leaves so much unwanted and not used pieces and bits it seriously puts your system in danger, at least making it slow. Most of these horror stories come from two types of users, those who have never done a Vista to Seven in-place upgrade but have heard third hand information and rumours, and those who have not prepared installation as it should be prepared.
I have done a lot of in-place upgrades, both from XP to Vista and lately from Vista to Seven. I have even successfully tried a one-session XP to Seven via Vista in-place upgrade (in-place XP to Vista, installing service packs and drivers and then directly in-place further to Seven), to show some colleagues how to do a safe and working upgrade. I have never encountered any upgrade related problems; I do have had my share of installation problems and issues but I’ve always found out that after failing to do an in-place upgrade, the same issue has occurred also after a clean install. Most often the reason is non-compatible hardware. You cannot blame in-place if your hardware refuses to work with Seven.
First, let’s take a look at the chart about in-place options:
As you can see it is not possible to "downgrade when upgrading" i.e. you cannot in-place upgrade from for example Vista Ultimate to Seven Home Premium. You need to have the same or better edition (notice that you can in-place upgrade to Seven Professional only from Vista Business). Your current Vista needs at least service pack 1 to be able to upgrade to Seven.
Notice please: You can only in-place upgrade to Windows 7 from Vista. Older Windows versions (XP, 2000 etc.) can not be in-place upgraded to Seven You cannot in-place upgrade a 32-bit Vista to a 64-bit Seven or 64-bit Vista to a 32-bit Seven The language versions have to match, you can in-place upgrade an English Vista only with an English Seven.
So, let’s start. This guide will show you how to prepare and do an in-place upgrade from Vista to Seven. Following these steps you are most likely to get it right first time.
1. Check the compatibility issues
Download and run Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Follow any instructions given Uninstall all incompatible software, update drivers and software if Advisor tells so
2. Prepare your system
Update (flash) your system BIOS to most current version After flashing BIOS, restore it to factory defaults 3. Prepare your software setup.
Uninstall all applications and software you never use or which is expired (test and trial versions, software you know you are never going to use like the game you tested but didn’t like etc.) Update AV and Firewall software to the most current versions, including virus definitions Turn off AV, Firewall and all malware software. Remember to turn them on again after installation is finished Check and run Windows Update until it tells you Vista is up to date Clean up your system deleting all unnecessary files like temp folders etc. Backup your system 4. Prepare your hardware setup.
Check Device Manager to assure all devices are working Disconnect all external devices, leave only the main display, mouse and keyboard If upgrading a laptop, be sure it is connected to an AC power source. That’s it. Insert the install media and start doing an in-place upgrade. Please notice this is the most boring part of the process; an in-place upgrade can take hours.
An in-place upgrade can easily take longer than doing a clean install and re-installing all the software. If you don't have too much personal files to transfer, only have a limited amount of applications to re-install and if you have all install media, I recommend doing a clean install. Remember though there's nothing wrong doing an in-place upgrade. It works well and fine when done right.
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Sep 17, 2009
will windows seven retail upgrade over windows seven RC ?
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Dec 7, 2009
I made an ISO of my genuine Windows 7 Professional upgrade DVD and then downloaded a genuine Windows 7 Ultimate ISO. While I was deleting the ei.cfg file, I noticed that the folders and files are all the same. So is there any difference between the upgrade DVD and the retail DVD?
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Sep 30, 2009
I recently preordered Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade. The thing is that i have 2 laptops which i want to install Windows 7 on one is a 32 bit and the other is a 64 bit, both of which have the respective Vista OS on it. Will the UPGRADE versions of Windows 7 ship with both setups for 32 bit and 64 bit?
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Oct 6, 2011
From windows 7 64 bit ultimate sp1 to windows 7 64 bit ultimate sp1.I do have to note I accidently deleted a partition with 100 games some weeks ago which caused some not clean leftovers in registry, but they are only games, not a single system/ application. So I don't think this is a cause for upgrade to fail.The point of this inplace upgrade repair is to fix all the security/ settings / rights to default.Since I have security issues, acces denied etc. and I had tried to fix them with all sorts of commands, Icalcs, subinacl etc. (for full details on security issue view my topic created here ul...)It said it had trouble with following devices when checking on compatibility.AWBN4A-HW IDE controller (yellow exclaimation mark) Alcohol 120% Daemon tools Dungeon siege legends of Aranna.But I don't even have any IDE devices. Only Sata.So I uninstalled the IDE controller and other programs and tried setup again it went through.I have also run windows 7 upgrade assistant and gave no trouble other then some videogames that were not recognised or might not work (i have 200 of em installed)After the upgrade it rebooted and it said it had failed and was reverting back to old..This is the setuplog I took from the upgrade folders: setupact.rar (1,22 MB) - uploaded.to Seems to be stopped @ 63%..Could someone tell me why my upgrade is failing?
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Sep 30, 2009
I have never done an in-place upgrade, so I am a little confused. One very knowledgeable friend told me that the in-place upgrade essentially runs a Windows Easy Transfer, does a clean install, and unpacks the transfer file, all automatically. Is it true? Is there a difference between doing an in-place upgrade and just using Easy Transfer?
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Jul 8, 2009
Are all the pre-order deals for upgrade software rather the full retail versions?
I have shelled out quite a bit on WinXP over the past few years and more recently due to both desktop and laptop falling over at the same time.
I want to be able to install any new operating system I buy on new hardware when that becomes necessary.
I have to be very sure. I am not wasting any more dosh on OEM versions.
It seems to me that just because you get a full version rather than an upgrade, that is something different to the license being OEM or Retail.
Full or upgrade version is not really the issue (although full is obviously better). For me it is about the license to install on new hardware as I upgrade that without buying a new copy of windows.
Does 'full' also mean that the install will not be tied to a previous copy of windows being installed first (or having the key for that version to hand)?
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Nov 2, 2009
so I'm confused with upgrading to windows 7. i am currently running the windows 7 RC and for upgrading to the full version I'm unsure if i need to buy the retail version of windows 7 or if i can use the upgrade disk for windows 7.
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Oct 5, 2009
i use xp pro sp2 retail on my main well gaming rig. i ordered the Windows 7 hp upgrade and will ship 10-22-09.
if i read right. when i upgrade to Windows 7 my key for my retail xp pro sp2 will be no more good. i will not be able to install or use my retail xp again. is this right?
well. a bud sent me a oem sp3 copy of xp pro some months ago. its still sealed and i never opened the package. i am afraid of sp3 is why i have not used it yet. so.. but. my question is and if i will lose my retail xp key if i upgrade to Windows 7. should i upgrade to Windows 7 using my oem xp sp3 disc. and keep my retail key etc.
so. id guess first i need to back up and save what i need to keep. files etc. then nuke reformat and install my oem xp. just basic install and i guess register it. and then upgrade fresh install Windows 7. if this will work im fine with it. yes its the extra steps to first install the oem xp version maybe. but id like to save my retail xp key. i do have another computer i guess i could use xp on for a while to come. i have not been using my second pc. ive been afraid to install or use xp sp3.. so i have not used my oem xp sp3 yet.
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Oct 21, 2009
I have purchased 2 retail copies of Windows 7 Pro for 29.99 with my student discount. If you have questions as to how I achieve this go to this thread
Full Retail Version of Pro For Students only 29.99
I now have another computer that I want to put Windows 7 pro on. I am thinking about purchasing an upgrade key and just using the retail version to install so I don't have to reinstall Vista in order to do the upgrade.
Anyways, do you think I could purchase an upgrade key, install with my retail disk without filling out the product key and then activate with the upgrade key?
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Oct 27, 2009
I was just consulted on by a teacher who had a student that purchased Windows 7 and just received it in the mail. It was an upgrade, he couldn't find a product key. He was wondering if your current os's product key doubled as your 7 key. I would assume it wouldn't, and he just over looked Microsoft's master of disguise product keys.
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Dec 11, 2009
I apparently cannot change the product key from a Windows 7 Ultimate eval copy 7100 to a retail Ultimate product key and have it activate properly. The process tells me my key is not valid...is that correct? I do not see anywhere an activation phone number to call.
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Mar 11, 2011
I have a quad core-processor, and I'm unsure what effects W7 will have on my pc atm. I'm running 64bit/32bit.When I upgrade to the W7 from vista will I need to download both versions or can I just download the 64bit and my processor run fine?
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Oct 19, 2009
I've ordered seven copies of Windows 7, five full versions on pre-order from a retailer, plus Home Premium Upgrade and one Professional Upgrade download version from the Microsoft Student deal: Microsoft UK Education - Home - Ultimate Steal
Now I hear that the pre-ordered copies will not arrive for FIVE DAYS after the release date. Will I be able to use my "full" keys if I use the downloaded upgrade versions to install?
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Aug 12, 2009
I have Vista x64 right now and I keep wanting to install the 7100 build beta that I downloaded a while back. I plan to buy the 3 pack of Windows 7 when it comes out but I am wondering if installing the beta build now will make upgrading harder down the road. Doing a clean install is just way to hard considering all the terrabytes of programs and data that I would have to either re-install or manually try to put back into it's original places.
I know a lot of people preach that doing clean installs is so much better. In my experience this has never really helped. I have on numerous occasions done clean installs and they never did seem to work any better or any faster than the upgrades that I have had installed for years. The only time I think you need to do a clean install is if you have stability issues with your hardware causing your OS to go flaky or if you neglect your OS and leave all kinds of crap floating around on it. We have one machine running Windows 2000 since 2000 and it is used daily without any problems or corruption whatsoever.
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Apr 3, 2011
I'm installing this for a friend and she bought a Windows 7 Pro from digital river. She's using Vista 32bit home premium, and it won't let me do an in-place upgrade. She has a lot of programs and I don't wish to re-install one by one, especially when they're programs in Japanese.
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Aug 10, 2012
I have a Windows 7-64 box that works perfectly. Except that I cannot install any driver past 270.61 for my nVidia GTX-580.nVidia said this is a known problem with many users due to "The install failed because a control panel binary is failing to register because of a missing dependency." In other words, one of their installers/un-installers has removed a dll that's needed.I don't have a free week of my life to re-install everything on the box from scratch. It was suggested on the EVGA forum that I might:" in-place upgrade install of the OS. In other words, insert your OS disk. Start the install and select 'Upgrade'.I have high end software like Maya, CS6, SQL Server and many others (but no games, this is a business machine with no extra software).
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Oct 10, 2009
Can Windows 7 Home Premium full version be used to do an in-place upgrade?
I have a new PC with Vista Home Premium that gives me a free upgrade to Windows 7 (but it will still cost 20 euros for p&p). Vista is pre-loaded and the recovery files are on a separate partition on one drive. Worse case scenario is the hard drive dies. I will need the full version of Windows 7 to do a clean install on a new hard drive, but at the moment I would just like to upgrade.
All things considered, I'm thinking of buying the full version while it's half price but need to know if I can use that to just do an upgrade. Is that possible?
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Jul 17, 2009
is it in any way possible to:
1) install windows 7 RC as the home premium version (not ultimate). i heard you can edit some file to allow this.
2) when the retail version of windows 7 home premium upgrade comes out, use that to upgrade my RC installation AND KEEP MY INSTALLED PROGRAMS?
i heard you can do a custom install which makes a windows.old folder. i am looking to NOT do that.
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Oct 25, 2009
My question involves upgrading a home desktop to Windows 7 Ultimate. I have a copy of Windows XP Professional and Windows Vista Ultimate which are Academic versions I purchased at a discount from my university. (I already purchased the Student Windows 7 edition for my laptop).
**Are the academic versions of Windows Vista Ultimate or Windows XP Professional eligible for the Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box Upgrade?**
I do not want to purchase the Upgrade retail box version to then learn the Academic version of XP and Vista are not eligible for the Upgrade version of Windows 7 Ultimate. Or will I need to purchase the Full Retail Box version to upgrade to Windows 7 Ultimate?
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Apr 24, 2012
what is the difference between upgrade and full retail version of windows 7.
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Jan 11, 2012
I am waiting to be approved by my school for msdnaa access but am not sure what it offers is what I need. Is what they offer equivalent to a retail version of windows 7, oem or upgrade?
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Nov 30, 2009
For people that brought computers with Vista but promised a Windows 7 upgrade, did you get a OEM disk, or you got a retail one with a serial number?
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Having read some threads I am under the impression I won't have to purchase another copy of windows but I was wondering what I will have to do in order to continue using the same copy of windows.
Some people have indicated that I will need to contact Microsoft but I couldn't determine if they meant the automated phone number used to activate Windows or if was another number?
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Can i use win 7 pro full retail to upgrade from vista business I do not want to have to GO AND INSTALL ALL THE PROGRAMS PUN WITH VISTA?
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