Windows 8.1 - Rebooting When System Is In Idle For A Time?
Sep 15, 2014
when i leave my system in idle for an hour or two, it reboots without any BSOD, or any error messages. My rig is 5 year-old, and always worked perfectly with Windows 7, without any strange issues.
When i'm working, Win 8.1 works absolutely perfect for long long hours.. rendering video, playing games etc.. i never found a BSOD or random reboot.I did the following to try to solve this problem, without success:
- Changing my PSU.
- Changing the Win 8 energy plan to Maximum Performance (hard disks never turn off)
- Memtest for 16+ hours, without any error.
My guess is there are some Windows 8.1 feature that doesn't fit well with my mobo, but i can't find it. I have also the same version of Win 8.1 installed in another older rig, and works 100% perfect during days (working and idle).This is my problematic rig:
Gigabyte P55-A UD6, BIOS F12c Beta (the last available from Gigabyte)
G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 2000 8Gb (2x4Gb)
Intel Core i7 860 Lynnfield
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5
Corsair Force 3 180 Gb (firmware updated)
Creative X-Fi Titanium
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Dec 8, 2012
I've noticed that when I leave my pc for some time and the screen savers come on, then the screens go blank (my machine doesn't sleep or hibernate) when I use the pc again I can see that during the time the monitors had turned off, the CPU usage was at or above 50% ? When I use the computer after that, watching movies, photoshop etc the cpu usage is much less than that!
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Nov 16, 2012
I'm sure alot of people have already asked about this, but I tried their solutions to get no results. Whenever I put my computer to sleep, it would reboot, and I'd get this message:
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Sep 13, 2013
I have been using Windows 8 for over 1 year now. My computer took an update yesterday and tried to reboot. Now all I get is Windows is configuring your updates....goes from 0-30% and then it restarts. Keeps cycling forever.
I have an AMD quad core 9600, Gigabyte MB, 4GB ram, SSD drive.
I have tried to put in the Windows install/repair DVD and system restore says I need to restart choose an operating system. The repair option starts with diagnosing your PC then after 5 minutes it just restarts.
I can not due a fresh install....need my data.
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Aug 26, 2012
Windows 8 boots up pretty quickly, but it takes a notably long time (compare to Windows 7) for it to show up the system tray applications. In Windows 7 it is almost instant.
Is this Microsoft's problem or the app maker's problem?
Also, the apps seem to load sequentially. Is there a way to rearrange them so that the ones I want load quickly. I need AutoHotKey, Logitech Setpoint and Logitech Gaming Software to load up ASAP. Rest can take their sweet time.
Also this is what the TaskManager's startup performance analysis looks like.
Having this *feature* means that Microsoft can blame the app maker for the slow startup. But why doesn't that happen in Windows 7? Is this because Desktop is another app, and stuff don't really get priority?
Also I still cannot find why PeerBlock would not start when placed in the classic Startup folder.
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Jan 15, 2014
Windows 8.1 ... Noticed shortly after upgrading the Asus VivoTab Smart to Windows 8.1 (from Windows 8) -- that sometimes the system's date and time will be incorrect after a shut-down, turn on cycle. Sometimes the clock is as fast as three hours, but others much longer. Interestingly, if you go into PC Settings > Time & Settings and then toggle off the "Set time automatically" option, and then toggle it back on, the time and date are immediately corrected. However, the time would again be wrong after a shutdown. If the tablet is restarted, though, the time is correct again.
THE SYSTEM: Windows 8.1 (upgraded from Windows Store). Intel Atom processor.
WHAT'S BEEN TRIED: I:
1. Stopped the Windows Time service, registered it again and restated it. The issue remained. I entered the desktop and clicked on the time in the lower right-hand corner of the screen. From here I confirmed the time zone was correct and changed the date and time. That fixes the problem during the current session, but the time/date are again wrong on reboot.
2. Tried Safe Mode. In Safe Mode, the time is correct and stays correct.
3. Tried Clean Boot. In Clean Boot, with all non-Microsoft services disables, the issue returns and the time is wrong again.
THE BREAKTHROUGH THAT BEGS FOR AN ANSWER: While reading this thread, I read up on Windows 8's Fast Startup. Just on a lark, I went into the Power settings area of the Control Panel and turned off Fast Startup. Now the clock is correct. There's a downside , of course, to this in that shutdown and startup is notably slower.
The tablet now keeps perfect time -- but cannot have Fast Startup - which is a bummer for a tablet.
QUESTIONS:
1. Is this is hardware issue? Asus is offering an RMA -- but hate to add to a landfill when this is fixable with software.
2. Is there a way to check the BIOS clock on a Windows 8.1 tablet ? I believe it's a UEFI system....
3. Is there a way to fix this so fast startup can be used -- and have correct time?
4. Is this a known issue?
5. Is there a way to make sure the Windows Time service is activated in a Fast Startup.
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Feb 12, 2014
After spending a lot of time isolating the specific update that was giving me the extremely slow reboot time, (from 5 seconds to 150 seconds after update) I was able to determine that Windows optional update -Qualcomm Atheroos Communication - Bluetooth Controller - Qualcomm Atheros AR3012 Bluetooth 4.0 + HS was the cause of the lag.
Any solution to the lag. from 5 seconds to nearly 3 minutes is a substantial lag in restarting the computer.
The computer is a MSI GS70 229US.
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Apr 4, 2013
I had to boot into safe mode for virus removal and now all it will do is boot and start safe mode, then reboot again. It just keep doing it over and over. This is a new upgrade to a windows 7 pro OS and I am using 8 pro.
Cannot boot in normal mode. Tried to do that by going into the advanced repair and doing a normal startup, just keeps going back to safe mode and as soon as the screen starts to open it reboots.
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Jul 10, 2014
If I leave my Windows 8.1 PC unattended for even a short while, I find I have to push reset button to get it going again. The taskbar experiences changes in that desktop apps will not work, whereas metro apps will work. The only solution I've found so far is the reset button. This occurs often during any given day.
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Feb 20, 2014
This is the message displayed when CPU rebooted SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_HANDLED (ser2attr64.sys)I tried to find something on line with no luck
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Jun 9, 2014
I have currently been experiencing a new problem with my PC. This problem occurs when I am running any game on my computer. When running a game for a few minutes, my tower begins to make a loud noise, which I assume is caused by the fans spinning faster and faster inside, then my display monitor goes black but then notifies me with a "no signal" message. While this is happening, my tower is still on as the power button still has back lighting, in fact the back lighting never disappears unless I physically have to turn my PC off.
I would say I have been experiencing this problem fairly recently - about a week ago this problem arose. The reboot only ever occurs when I am running a game and not when I am browsing the internet, watching videos, running other programs like Word or Skype etc...
The games I am running also had the video settings on high and I have noticed that when I put the video settings on low it buys me a little more time before my system reboots.
XML view
- <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>3</Version>
[code]...
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May 2, 2014
Windows operating system, namely Windows 8, in which you cannot force quit programs but must restart the PC to stop a program. Often, this results in a user retsrating his garbage PC over 5 times a day.
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Aug 30, 2013
I am using windows 8 and from time to time the whole laptop freezes with only short moments where you can move the mouse until it freezes again.
And today I was using word and the program wouldn't let me work in it, you could see the mouse movement at the bottom of the screen only. I had to shut it down using task manager for it to work again.
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Nov 29, 2013
Basically about 1 month ago a good friend of mine purchased a brand new acer desktop computer, I haven't got the exact model to hand as he lives 200 kilometers from me and he's not tech savvy at all, however, from what I remember of it, it's windows 8 x64, 4gb ram and i3 processor, so not bad at all.
When he got it I set it up for him as in just put in the regional setting etc.. and ran through the initial set up and all went well. I installed all his programs and all was good.
So about a month on he rang me and said his computer is just freezing randomly always when it's left idle for 10 minutes or so and this happens all day every day.
..... Ran hitman pro which said all was clean.
.....Ran chkdsk /f which was fine
.....Went into power options and set both screen and sleep to never
....Ran sfc /scannow which said it found some corrupt file but could not fix all (ran this from command prompt from inside windows as admin)
...Tried a system restore to the 14th of this month but said it couldn't do it as it may be corrupt but it let do a restore to a later date but still the same issue.
This is only a new pc, so if I can't sort the problem rather than doing a fresh install and checking all the hardware internally I'm wondering if he should bring it back to the shop as it's only a month old, or would I be better of doing the fresh install ?
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Jun 21, 2014
My Windows 8.1 pro desktop system,is going to sleep after a few mins of staying idle.I was having windows 7 before this and I never faced any issue.It was recently that I upgraded my OS to windows 8.1 pro. This is a clean install of the OS.
By staying idle, I mean, I am reading some newspaper or some pdf file or something like that online without any activitiy on the keyboard.After a few mins, it automatically goes into sleep mode. This is making me mad, as I could be in the middle of something while reading documents and it goes into sleep.
In the power options, I have changed it to High Performance plan, I have verified that, "Turn of Display" and "Put the computer to sleep" options are "Never". When I click on "Advanced Power Settings" , I can see that , under sleep, "sleep after" is never. Allow Hybrid sleep is "Off". Hibernate after is "Never".
I just wanted to add, that the event viewer shows the following entries...
The system is entering sleep.
Sleep Reason: System Idle
The kernel power manager has initiated a shutdown transition.
The system firmware has changed the processor's memory type range registers (MTRRs) across a sleep state transition (S4). This can result in reduced resume performance.
The system has returned from a low power state.
Sleep Time: 2014-06-21T05:51:33.970250600Z
Wake Time: 2014-06-21T05:52:23.968079800Z
I also tried to create a new power profile but this did not work. I ran sfc scanow and also fixed errors. I have all latest windows updates. I have also tried DISM
I can't even read something without fear and I have to keep moving my mouse every minute and I can't even concentrate.
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May 3, 2014
I am running Windows 8.1 Pro on a Desktop PC.
My issue is this:
My PC is on 24/7 previously on every version of Windows when I walk away, the screen turns off after 30mins of inactivity, the PC stays on and when I return, I simply moved the mouse and within 2 - 3 seconds the monitor was back on, and I was where I left it.
On Windows 8.1 that sometimes happens, but 90% of the time what is happening, when I return to my PC, I move the mouse and nothing happens, anything I press on keyboard etc, monitor stays off on black screen, if I turn the monitor off by the button and back on, it just stays black, the only way I can get back to my Desktop is to restart the PC!!
I changed several power settings around, disabled password on idle setting, googled many things and tried and its still doing it. The PC is still on fans etc, but doesn't respond.
Weird thing is, it did it today when I was watching a movie on my PC connected media server downstairs (app is PS3 Media Server used with a WDTV Live Hub) I came to use the PC and it was black screen, I went back downstairs and could still access all my files on the media server, so the PC is still up and fully running when it does this, but I just can't get the monitor to display anything other than black screen, again on a reboot everything is fine again.
To summarise, I have power setting to turn off display after 30mins, usually a nudge of the mouse brings the monitor to life, this is not happening, I can only get back to desktop via hard PC reboot.
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Jun 15, 2013
Windows 8, after 4 minutes of idle my notebook i get high cpu usage , i tried understand why occurs this problem with KernRate and get such trace log.
ProfileTime 86659 hits, 10000 events per hit --------
Module Hits msec %Total Events/Sec
RtlTraceDatabaseCreate 65847 314799 75 % 2091715
KeQueryInterruptTimePrecise 12833 314799 14 % 407656
RtlCompareMemoryUlong 654 314799 0 % 20775
[Code] ......
Why occurs high cpu usage?
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Oct 23, 2013
After making clean install of Windows 8.1 (before I had Windows 8) then my laptop started to hang from time to time.
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When I click fast many times then it finally opens App from Start screen on a program in Desktop mode but everything is slow for 3-4 min. Then it automatically works as it should be, like nothing would be wrong.
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I'm setting up a new laptop running Windows 8.1. I keep finding the Windows Media Network Sharing Service keeps starting up when the PC is otherwise idle and running at 90% + CPU load for long periods. There is no demand for media streaming when the process is running.
What is this process for? Can I disable it or reconfigure it to reduce the CPU load?
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Oct 6, 2013
Windows 8.1 tutorial for using Task Scheduler to configure an Automatic Shutdown after a user defined amount of idle time. I can't seem to find one...or is it not possible...or is there another way to skin this cat.
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Oct 27, 2012
In windows 8 my Core i5 3750K CPU does not reduce its clock-speed when idle. As I run an OC of 4,3Ghz, it gets pretty hot in idle, allthough it do reduce vCore a little.
Dualbooting with Windows 7, and there the cpu clocks down just fine works, so not a BIOS problem.
Seems to have some small HW issues with Windows 8. CPU at full speed and really slow USB3 performance.
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Jan 18, 2014
I walk away from my computer for a bit and come back to a BSOD. This happens quite regular. I have run my system both stock and highly overclocked. When it started BSODing on me I put it back to stock to see if that worked but it has not worked.
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Jan 25, 2014
I have gotten these damn bsod:s for almost month and i don't know what to do..
Things i have tried:
Reinstalled windows 3 times with no luck
Taken memory test with no errors
Checked drivers and all up to date
Computer specs are:
Win 8.1
600w lc power: lc6600gp2 v2.3
Gigabyte gtx760 oc 4gb
Amd FX-4350 4.2ghz
8gb (2x4gb) kingston
Asus m5a97 r2.0
Error specs:
- System - Provider [ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power [ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4} EventID 41 Version 3 Level 1 Task 63 Opcode 0 Keywords 0x8000000000000002 - TimeCreated [ SystemTime] 2014-01-25T07:53:00.308266100Z EventRecordID 845 Correlation - Execution [ ProcessID] 4 [ ThreadID] 8 Channel System Computer Takunen_ - Security [ UserID] S-1-5-18
- EventData BugcheckCode 0 BugcheckParameter1 0x0 BugcheckParameter2 0x0 BugcheckParameter3 0x0 BugcheckParameter4 0x0 SleepInProgress 0 PowerButtonTimestamp 0 BootAppStatus 0
It happens randomly sometimes on idle or sometimes on games like grid 2. Computer is about 2 months old.
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Oct 19, 2013
I upgraded my OS to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8 from the store yesterday. Everything seems to be working fine - no lags or freezes, but I noticed that my PC doesn't drop below 30-35% in idle, also it doesn't downclock (balanced power settings) - it used to drop to 0.8ghz in idle and be like 1-4% in idle before the update, and now it's permanent 3.2ghz and over 30% in idle. I noticed that Service Host: Local Services and Service Host: System Services in the task manager are draining over 10% CPU each, something that didn't happen before.
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Dec 11, 2012
My taskbar with toolbars: address, desktop, links etc becomes just empty blue space after PC was idle. nothing on it and I have to restart to be able to get it back again. Also. in that "state" I can choose application from Start screen but it does not open. Just show on that empty taskbar. When I click it, little picture of it pop up above taskbar but it can only be closed. Nothing shows as open on Alt+F4 or in upper left corner, even when I open or better say click on all aps on Start screen. All I pinned on taskbar disappears also.
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Apr 25, 2013
I have a server with 70 RDP users on it/ most people never log off when there finished.
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May 14, 2014
computer will have reset itself. I've started it back up and it's said:
C:WindowsMinidump51414-29 Memory.dmp
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I just bought a brand new Lenovo U310 Touch and so far I absolutely love it. The only thing I noticed that struck me as odd is that when I look in Task Manager it shows that I am using around 60% of my available memory, but there are no processes taking up anywhere near that much. I also have a desktop I built and its memory usage is nominal when idle so I know this isn't a "standard feature" or anything.
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