Vista X64 Random Startup Crash...
Sep 9, 2007
Anyway, I was running Vista32 for about 6 months with no real problems. I changed to Vista64 last night so that I could start using my current 4GB of RAM and be ready for more later on. When I tried to install the files would copy to the HDD just fine, but when the PC would reboot for the first time it would crash at the "green motion bar" loading screen and restart... over... and over. I removed my extra hardware and went down to 2GB of RAM in dual channel mode and reduced timings from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18 and was able to install. I then got all updates and hadded my hardware back... no problems. I then added my other 2GB of RAM back... no problems. I then increased my timings back to the correct 4-4-4-12... no problems, or so I thought. I'm currently getting random crashes when loading Vista... same as before it will get to the "green motion bar" loading screen and either reboot or give a BSOD and force a restart. I've turned my timings down to 5-5-5-12 and it still happens... so I put them back to 4-4-4-12. I've heard that Vista x64 might have problems with 4GB of RAM on certain systems but I'm not sure how true this is. I guess I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of this and if there's any known fix for this? Maybe a beta update from MS or something? Also... once I get past this "glitch" and Vista loads... it runs rock solid with no issues. All my drivers are the latest available and signed as required. ((downloaded them all last night))
Here's my system, remember... I ran Vista32 for months without a problem on the same system.
Asus P5N32-E SLI (latest BIOS 1205)
nVidia 7900GS (not using SLI)
Corsair 4-4-4-12 DDR2 RAM *SLI Ready* (4 matched sticks of 1GB each)
Antec TruePower 650 PSU PCI-E & SLI Ready
C = 320GB SATA2 Seagate
D = 400GB SATA2 Seagate
E = 400GB SATA2 Seagate
F = 500GB SATA2 Maxtor
G = 500GB SATA2 Maxtor
H = Lite-On SATA 20x SuperMulti Burner
J = 400GB IDE Seagate (will be removed, being used for data transfer from 32bit Vista for now)I'm tempted to go back to 32bit just because of the startup crash... but then I can't access my full 4GB of RAM.... goods and bads no matter what I do.
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