Backup OS / Small System Partition?
Oct 12, 2013
1. im thinking about backup the small system partition, Windows 8.1 & win 7 (Both x64 os) but i heard that there are always issue even when hardware is not change after backup & restore os. which is better clean install or backup with utility like acronis true disk?
2. Which utility is better for such task macrium or acronis?
3. is it possible to backup system without installing these software(some boot disk) means when i restore system it won't restore installed utility (just activated OS with no extra apps)?
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Nov 5, 2013
I am trying to create a system image backup and I keep getting this error message
[COLOR=#FF0000]'Threre is not enough disk space to create the volum shadow copy on storage location. Make sure that for all volume to be backup up, the minimum disk space required for shadow copy creation is available. this applies to both the backup storage destination and volume included in the backup. Minimum requirement for Volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabyte of free space. for voulimes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended at least 1 gigabytes free of disk space on each volumes if volumes size is more than 1 gigabytes (0x80780119)"
I am backing it up to a external HDD with over a tb of free space but I understand its not letting me perform the backup because the hidden 100mb hidden system partition is full...if i create a larger partition how can I copy that system partition to it? if that is possible....
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Oct 24, 2013
On a friend's new Dell Windows 8 desktop I tried to create a system image using Windows 7 File Recovery. I got a message saying it could not create the image. The message said "windows backup failed to get an exclusive lock on the efi system partition".
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Dec 12, 2013
I used to have System Reserved on separate partion to C: but on my last fresh re-install, I decided to make C: and System Reserved in one partition. Here's what shows on Disk Management:
My question is, which is better. System Reserved on the same partition with C: or on a separate partition?
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Sep 14, 2013
I have a question on ability to restore from an image based backup with a Win 8 compatible backup program (Acronis 2014 Premium), and not fully familiar with EFI. System is preinstalled Windows 8 on Asus F75 laptop, so disk is GPT.
Here are the partitions:
1. 300 MB EFI System Partition, FAT32
2. 900 MB NTFS Recovery Partition (would seem to be the MS Reserved partition)
3. 279 GB NTFS OS Partition
4. 398 GB NTFS Data Partition
5. 20 GB NTFS Recovery Partition
Forgetting about the 20 GB Recovery partition and the Data partition, if I wanted to return to a previous point in time for the OS, would I restore the OS partition (3), the MS Reserved Partition(2), AND the EFI System Partition, or would restoring the EFI System Partition not normally be done or recommended?
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May 17, 2013
Can I use the system backup I created in win7 to downgrade from Windows 8? I clean installed win 8 on my other laptop I didn't get the chance to get the win7 key because it came preinstalled. Or, is there any other way to get back to win7 without having to buy it.
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Sep 1, 2012
I backed up my system for security. But where did it go!
I can't find it anywhere. I like to know where files are stored.
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Sep 15, 2014
Today while casually browsing the iNet my Music suddenly stopped playing and while at first I believed it to be an issue with Xbox Music I later discovered that the Culprit was actually one of my RAID0 HDD's which decided to go AWOL - The Intel RST Manager confirmed this by showing that the 4th Drive ( I'm running two separate RAID0 with two drives each ) was missing.
A restart didn't solve the issue at first but physically removing the affected RAID and installing it back again using the SATA connectors of the other RAID0 for testing did. Interestingly enough even now that I installed everything back like it was before it appears to be fine
Right now I'm considering in converting my second PC into a BackUp System itself by getting large enough HDD's, install them into the primary PC first in order to quickly copy all the files and then move them into the secondary PC.
From there one I plan to use BTSync which is technically not a BackUp software but pretty much behaves like one as it simply copies all files of a selected folder from the primary PC to the secondary PC which it cannot find there in an actual version.
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Jun 30, 2013
I was wondering what is the best way to backup my system.
Should I use 'File History' or should I use 'Windows 7 File recover'.
What are the benefits of each and are there any difference??
I've googled but have most found articles on how to use windows 7 file recovery
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Jan 4, 2014
Trying to create a System Image Backup on a Windows 8.1 ACER laptop. My latest attempt is to a external hard drive with 3.63 TB free but the backup fails due to not enough disk .
I have attached the full error message.
New to the ways of Windows 8 and this is my first time trying to create a System Image Backup.
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Jun 26, 2014
I own an OEM Machine which is from Acer.
To ask what is probably well known amongst IT pro's; does a system image backup solution (and consequently a restore from that image if needs be) work on OEM PC's, like a desktop from Acer, actually work without problems, and would I get a proper bootable and working machine after restoration.
Brief scenario - I have used Acronis TI 2014 (Or even the Windows 8.1 system image utility) to create an image of my C: Drive/EFI Partition/Recovery Partition - and backed it up to an external USB HDD.
My OS crashes for whatever reason and I can't boot.
I then either use my Acronis bootable media CD (which I've tested and boots despite all the secure boot/UEFI/GPT mania going about users like myself) to reinstall the Acronis disk image.
OR I use a Widnows 8.1 bootable disk with the ISO (which I've tested to boot) to reinstall the Windows created system image. (I could also use the recovery drive I created in Win 8.1, which just to add, however irrelvanat it might be, includes my OEM factory default partition which was copied as part of the recovery flash drive creation)
Would either of those restore solutions give me a reasonably likely working PC again - taking into account all the stuff I don't understand like the Windows 8.1 OEM key being on the motherboard (which I would understand in terms of Windows activation and authentication could have a negative impact on restoring images over an OEM installed OS and it's partitions)....
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Sep 15, 2014
I have a Toshiba (satellite) laptop and it has just been upgraded to Windows 8.1. I made recovery discs before the upgrade but would like to backup again after the upgrade so i don't have to revert to the factory set-up or refresh option as I have already had that experience and i don't want to go that route again! My laptop is only 9months old & running fine so far with no issues, i can back-up my documents etc to my flash drive but i would like to back up, 'or do you call it copying', the whole setup so if i have a problem i can re-install the whole lot as it stands from today. I have increased the system restore percentage bar to allow more restores points as another safety option.
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Mar 31, 2014
I need to change the schedule I have already created for a System Image Backup. How do I get into schedule settings to change it?
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Jan 31, 2014
I am using EaseUs Todo Backup Home. I relocated the installer folder's files from ssd to hd. Do I need to copy the files back before I do a system backup?
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Jun 23, 2014
I created the system backup (bit copy) in my Win 8.1 Pro and saved it to my internal HDD.
It is possible to move it now to another drive (e.g. to NAS)?
I try to do this manually, but even though I can open the folder "WindowsImageBackup" and I see several saved files in included folders I cannot manipulate with them.
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Mar 12, 2014
I recently got myself into a quandary. I installed 4 additional drives with the intent of creating a RAID volume that's supported by the BIOS. In order to do that I must change the BIOS setting for the controller which includes all volumes including my boot drive (which I don't intend to RAID.) The problem I have is that when I switch the controller from UEFI to RAID, Windows Recovery will not use the System Image that I made. It says the volume was created under a different setting (Bios vs. EFI).
What are my options? Is there a different backup setting that will preserve all my installed software? I'm not concerned about data which I can copy to an external volume but it would take several days to get all my software reinstalled. I'd like to avoid that. I assume I will have to reinstall Windows 8.1 Pro and then use a backup program to restore everything else. If that's the case, then I need to know which backup program will work. If there's a better way, I'd love to know. I see my options as either, get another backup program, get a separate controller card for either the boot drive or the RAID volume, or reinstall everything.
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Jun 25, 2013
I have spent most of the past 12 hours trying to restore my win8pro system from a system image. the image was saved to a usb hard drive. win8pro system image recovery won't see the usb hard drive. I tried copying the backup to a drive on my network, but recovery won't see that either, even when entering the exact path to the backup using the network option. I then tried to copy the backup to a second hard drive, installing that hard drive directly into the machine. no go, wouldn't even recognize the drive.
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Mar 10, 2013
I'm having a problem with Windows System Image Backup just when I try to do a image backup it will say that it has failed and suggest to do a disk check. I've searched and some users say to use third party backup programs should I run the disk check first or just go with a different backup tool.
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Jul 30, 2013
After upgrading to the Win 8.1 upgrade I can no longer find the full backup selection and clicking on the change backup settings only shows a little clock. Has the backup function been removed from win 8.1?
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Oct 26, 2013
After upgrading to Windows 8.1, System Image Backup failed resulting in the following message:
"The backup failed. There is not enough space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage location. - (0x80780119)"
However, there was enough free space in the external hard disk: 762.82 GB.
Windows Disk Management, and other tools, provided the following information about the partition structure of Disk 0 (238.35 GB):
Type File System Capacity Free Space Recovery NTFS 499 MB 499 MB
EFI System Partition FAT32 300 MB 300 MB Microsoft Reserved Partition Other 128 MB
Recovery (?Volume{792d...) NTFS 350 MB 350 MB Recovery (?Volume{8b75...) NTFS 350 MB 350 MB
Recovery (SAMSUNG_REC2) NTFS 19.72 GB 19.72 GB Recovery (SAMSUNG_REC) NTFS 1.00 GB 1.00 GB
Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition NTFS 216.16 GB 144.76 GB
I am suspicious about having two 350 MB recovery partitions.
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Aug 10, 2014
I recently upgraded to Windows 8.1 from the Microsoft Store. Everything went well (so far) and I want to create a system image backup.
I have a 1 TB external hard drive with plenty of space, but there are some mp3 files on it. I'd like to know if storing the disk image on this drive will affect the mp3's (i.e., are they safe?)
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Mar 30, 2013
After doing some digging around I found the system image backup under windows 7 file recovery. Then I go to create system image and everything goes fine and then I get an error message after about half way through the back up . Error message will say something like not enough space on drive to create image and I am doing this on a 2TB external hard drive . I did notice one time I accidentally created 500 MB of unallocated space on this drive but I was getting this this error message before I did that and I am not even sure how I created it. I have another PC with windows 7 and don't have a problem with the scheduled image and data backups being performed weekly. Had this problem with windows 8? Also how do eliminate the 500 MB of unallocated space on my 2 TB External HD which is not really a problem but should not be there . I have my files backed up on this HD although I don't use windows data back up utility which I prefer Sync Back to perform instead .
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Mar 29, 2013
My system is dell xps 8300. I have upgraded from windows 7 ultimate(64bit) to windows 8 pro 64 bit. My system has
1) dell oem partition (no drive ketter 39MB),
2) recovery partition (ntfs no drive letter) 13.25 GB free 2.94 Gb,
3) C drive windows system partition 100Gb free 31,24 GB rest of the two partitions are 175 Gb each (logical drives).
Total my hard disk capacity is 500GB.
What is the difference of taking backup and which is better for recovering the system to original state just before the backup.
1) System image backup(recovery partition & windows system partition) using windows 8 system backup..ie using
windows 7 file recovery menu under control panel.
2) Creating custom recovery image for refresh.(command: recimage -CreateImage)
I have done both and my backup location is external hard drive of 2TB capacity. I made system recovery disk(dvd) from the windows 7 file recovery menu.
The custom recovery image wim file is of size 22.GB
The recovery partition backup(vhdx) is of 9GB and the windows system partition backup is of 43GB.
I have also used macurium reflect pro to take backup of my recovery and windows partition using macurium rescue cd.
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Apr 17, 2013
My windows 8 pro install messed up n i have almost 2.8tb of stuff on my drive on a 3tb hd. I have an identical hd as a backup which i have (an apparently successful) a backup of my system from a couple of weeks ago on. I had set the system to do scheduled backups of the system (set to backup a system image of efi partition and c. There were a few times where i was trying to get other things done and the systemwas running slow so i cancelled the backups when i noticed them running. The software stopped the backups (seemingly successfully).
As i say my system messed up - i came home to find out it was no longer downloading (as i had left it doing when i went to work) but was on a blue screen (bsod?) saying the system needs to be restarted. Since then it didnt work well at all and after dskchk reported that several sectors were damaged so it was moving data to spare sectors (or whatever it generally reports when this happens) there were a lot of files messed up or reported as deleted when doing a file recovery scan with recuvva.
So i decided to restore the backed up system image from the other hd. Incidentally i tried mounting the vhdx backup image from that hd via windows explorer which then reported "the disk needs formatting" and didnt get any success mounting via disk management either (it mounted in the app but didnt show up on windows explorer and if i tried to access info on it via disk management it reported the same"disk needs formatting prompt".
So when i booted my win 8 dvd it didnt work cos the dvd wasnt an efi booting version so i had to boot from a usb version with the efi bit included.
I formatted the system drive and chose to do an image restore. It started doing the restore (apparently) but every time i came back to it later i had the follwing error:
"Re-image your computer
The system image restore failed.
Error details: The requested system device cannot be identified due to multiple indistinguishable devices potentially matching the identification criteria Ox80073B92"
It took me so long to set up my system n i have a lot of my own data on there too. The system drive I formatted was created in diskpart and then re formatted with "format" command (as it created the disk in raw mode) so now it is ntfs mode (uncompressed).
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Jun 6, 2013
I started to use the "Create System Image" of the "Windows 7 File Recovery" on my Windows 8 laptop. But after the screen which flashes the total size that would be required, when I ask it to start the process expecting it to prompt me for the 1st DVD, it flashes the message, - "The back-up failed. The system is not ready. (0x80070015) " . I am trying this on an out-of-the-box laptop with pre-installed Windows 8. Also tried it by disabling the anti-virus, but to no avail.
Then I tried to start the process with a 4.7 GB blank DVD already in place. Then it flashed the message "Insert a blank media bigger than 1 GB". Since I expected it take anywhere between 3-8 DVDs, I kept about 9 DVDs ready. I also inserted a USB pen-drive of 16 GB and tried to create the system image. Again it flashed the same message of insert a blank media greater than 1 GB in F: (same drive as USB) -??????? I mean the USB is already in place and has been assigned the drive letter as F:. How can I insert a blank media there ??
I am using Windows 8 Single Language. I was able create a repair disc without issues, though.
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Dec 19, 2013
I can't get windows 8.1 system image to burn to my backup drive it says access denied for some reason or another, and i can't get it to burn to dvd-r ether. I want to do a image of my drive.
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Apr 4, 2014
Win 8.1 ProThe system allows system image backup done on either external hard drive ( which I do every week ), or on DVDs. Why it does not allow USB flash drive ? I tried to use a 32 GB flash and it refuses to do backup on it.
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Oct 26, 2013
I am now getting an Event ID 513 log every time I create a System Image backup using Macrium Reflect Free; however, it doesn't seem to affect the restoral because everything seems just fine after same. Since I have never noticed these logs when running Win 8.0, I'm wondering if this is a brand new issue with 8.1? So, here is my Macrium Free version information and a copy of the Event ID 513 error log. Seeing this log on 8.1 or can confirm it is not present after an 8.0 backup.
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Oct 21, 2013
Windows 8.1 64 bit pc48 GB RamIntel i7 - 3960X CPUBoxxTech ComputerDrive C: SSD - 446 GB
When I first got my new personal computer in January, I created a System Image using Microsoft's utility. I typically use Acronis for my backups, but after major changes, I use both Microsoft and Acronis.
Now, I am attempting to complete a System Image Backup using Microsoft's utility so that I can fix my SecureBoot concern, knowing that I have a safety net in place. Unfortunately, I am unable to complete a backup. BoxxTech suggests that I use Microsoft's utility.
I begin with the File History in the Control Panel as shown below. Note, that I have plenty of room on my FreeAgent F Drive (standalone USB drive). Yet, Microsoft's utility believes otherwise.
Only the three items that shown to be selected are selected. In other words, there are no other drives or partitions off-screen that are selected.
Thinking that it might be a problem with my external USB hard drive, I look at using one of my internal drives, T.
I get the same error message as shown earlier.
why I am unable to back-up my personal computer using Windows 8.1?
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Jun 1, 2014
I have a UEFI PC with an SSD and an HDD. I installed Windows 8 and upgraded to Windows 8.1 on the SSD.
For reasons I don't understand, Windows created the system reserved partition on the HDD, not the SSD. Not knowing this, I erased and reformatted the HDD, and now the system will not boot. The Windows 8.1 install is still present on the SDD, but the system reserved partition is absent.
Is there a way to re-create the system reserved partition? I have the Windows 8 install DVD, but the upgrades to 8.1 were made using Microsoft Update and the Microsoft Store.
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Jan 26, 2014
Install 8.1 Pro over email, he gets to the HDD selection screen in setup, deletes the old Windows 7 partition, deletes the old 100MB System Reserved partition, creates a new partition as normal
At this point it should have asked him to allow setup to create a new 350MB system reserved partition, but no, it just automatically began installing 8.1
I told him, let it complete install, then check disk management to see if it has created the 350MB partition and this is the screenshot he sent me
why his storage drive is Dynamic, could this be why there was no system reserved partition created on the main drive?
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