Windows 8 - Changing Partition And System Image (GUID To MBR)
Sep 8, 2013
I just bought a new Gateway that came with Windows 8, and the partition is GUID (GPT), so I am unable to use TrueCrypt for full-disk encryption. I wanted to change the partition, but the computer didn't come with a Windows 8 disk. All I have is a system image disk set that I created when I first set up the computer.
Can I open up command, change the partition table from within Windows, then restore the computer VIA system image? Will I need to get another drive first, or hook the current drive up to another computer and change there?
How might I go about changing the GUID to MBR without ruining the OS, because I don't have an installation disk for Windows 8.
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Nov 5, 2013
I am trying to create a system image backup and I keep getting this error message
[COLOR=#FF0000]'Threre is not enough disk space to create the volum shadow copy on storage location. Make sure that for all volume to be backup up, the minimum disk space required for shadow copy creation is available. this applies to both the backup storage destination and volume included in the backup. Minimum requirement for Volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabyte of free space. for voulimes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended at least 1 gigabytes free of disk space on each volumes if volumes size is more than 1 gigabytes (0x80780119)"
I am backing it up to a external HDD with over a tb of free space but I understand its not letting me perform the backup because the hidden 100mb hidden system partition is full...if i create a larger partition how can I copy that system partition to it? if that is possible....
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Mar 6, 2014
Using the built in Windows 8 function. Using a User Profile tool and experimenting with copying profile settings, I managed to corrupt my Windows 8.1 install. I thought, no, problem, I'd made images of the system partition and I would restore one of those.
Upon attempting to copy one of those image files back to the system partition, I found my machine unbootable.
I used Aomei Partition Assistant to create the image and to copy it back. Aomei though requires that the destination partition be deleted before it will copy and I think that's the root of the problem. I suspect that Aomei destroys the hidden UEFI partitions in the process which renders the machine unbootable. I did check with Diskpart and could see that I no longer had four partitions after the above which does indicate that Aomei did trash one of the other partitions.
I have now used my bootable install media to make a new windows 8 instal on the machine. I can see with Diskpart that the machine again has the four UEFI partitions.
So, now I'm ready to try again to copy my backup system partition to the new system partition. I had put in lots of work updating to 8.1, installing software, and customizing settings, etc. so I'd rather not reinstall everything again!
The question is how to do this without messing it up again. By the way, windows own "restore from image" function will not allow me to select my Aomei created drive image.
My thought right now is to find a different partition copy tool which will allow me to OVERWRITE the new system partition on the machine (as said Aomei Partition Assistant does not allow this). The old version of Norton Ghost would do that, but my only copy is floppy based and this new MOBO doesn't even have a floppy connector.
I do want to maintain the setup as UEFI and I'm wondering whether there's anything else I need to know about UEFI installs that would suggest another approach.If indeed I can solve this by overwriting the partition (instead of deleting and creating a new one), any recommendation for a bootable tool (USB or CD) ....
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Oct 5, 2014
I am using Windows 8.1 Update and Windows ADK.
How do I change the name and description of a volume image stored in a wim file?
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Mar 7, 2013
I've been dual-booting Windows 8 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate, but a while back my Windows 8 kind of went "South" and wouldn't boot at all (I got an error message that a device was "not attached"). I have a recent system image on an external USB hard drive, but when I boot to "system recovery" using my repair disk it can't seem to find my USB drive at all.
The tutorials here mention installing a SATA driver to access disks that are not recognized, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
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Aug 9, 2013
I have my main nbook (MSI GT683R-261CS), which have UEFI (AMI Aptio). However when I try to install Windows to (pre-created) GPT GUID sytem boot partition, Windows installation program kicks me to balls, that it can't be installed there.
In UEFI setup, there is no option to switch between MBR and GPT boot. Is there any utility, which will tell me, if my machine supports booting from GPT GUID?
I proceed in creating system boot GUID GPT by something like this:
Code:
rescan
list disk
select disk[=n]
detail disk
list partition
select partition[=n/l]
detail partition
[code].....
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Dec 12, 2013
I used to have System Reserved on separate partion to C: but on my last fresh re-install, I decided to make C: and System Reserved in one partition. Here's what shows on Disk Management:
My question is, which is better. System Reserved on the same partition with C: or on a separate partition?
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Jul 1, 2013
I bought an Acer notebook with Windows 8 SL (Single Language) and UEFI BIOS (with Secure Boot) factory installed (Windows Key is set in Bios).
I have the habit of installing all programs and make an image of partition C: in case of having to reinstall the entire system for problems with Windows, HDD exchange or similar cases. With this gain too long and not have to reinstall all the programs one by one.
My HDD is partitioned into 4 parts: C:, E:, F: and G:.
When I enter the Windows 8 app to generate the system image appear two partitions pre-marked for backup: C: (Programs) and EFI System Partition (no drive letter). C: partition is formatted as NTFS, but the EFI is as FAT32.
My question is: when I restore this, how should I format the partition where you install the system again (C ? Format all the partition as NTFS and Backup app creates the EFI partition FAT32 by own?
How it works and how to proceed? I will boot the system by CD-ROM.
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Aug 29, 2013
I cannot change cameras I want to use on some websites (Skype and yahoo ok). When I go to try to select an external cam on some websites which merely show "About Adobe Flash Player" in the "camera area", I can't seem to pull up the icon which allows me to select the external camera. The internal camera works just fine on those sites, but if I disabled the internal camera "hoping the computer" would recognize the external camera as the "new default" camera, I then have no camera whatsoever on those sites.
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Jan 15, 2014
I have an ssd (c) to boot win 8 pro 64 bit with one hd for backup (b) and two other hdd's (d and e) to install all my games to and personal files. My ssd was mounted on a 3.5" adaptor in a 5.25" bay so was partially floating so i ordered a 5.25" adaptor to fix it to.
Also my hdd for backup isnt used often so i bought a 5.25" hot swap bay for it so i can just plug in when i need to backup instead of having it constantly on.
When i plugged the drives back in i changed the sata 6 slots around a little and since then i can't get the pc to boot!
The hot swap bay seems to work power-wise but can't get to find if it works fully because i cant boot.
It seems to be a problem with the ssd as my asus sabertooth 990fx (rev 1) shows a constant "boot_device_led" light when it is connected but not with the others.
Basically when i turn the pc on it goes through POST but the mobo boot light stays on meaning its a boot problem?
I tried resetting the cmos a few times, changing ssd to different sata slots including the two sata 3 slots too, changing the sata connections from ahci to ide and back in the bios and none of this works.
One thing ive yet to do is turn off smart check in the hope it is a smart problem and will allow me to boot past the asus screen to try and repair the drive.
I'm not sure if its the ssd needs repairing or some kind of repair on the boot part of the drive or bios (boot choice)?
In the bios boot options it shows "boot manager" but i'm not sure the bcd is correct if I've moved hdd's around?
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May 7, 2014
Is there a way to change from 64 to 32 bit. I ran into a problem with running a program from a web site that implied that I needed a 32 bit web browser instead of 64 bit web browser. I did not put the 64 bit browser in so am unaware of how to fix this issue. It is from windows 8.1 x64 based processor ie version 10.1
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Feb 16, 2014
Today when I played my favorite game ( entropia universe), I got a message from my game saying that I have low ram, I checked on the Ctrl alt del thing and I was shocked that only 3.8 gb ram was usable when i have 8 gb ram and using 64 bit system. So here comes to my first question... Why would this happen?
So I happened to follow a tutorial and turned on the maximum ram checkbox in the advanced settings in boot tab in msconfig. However when I first reboot I got the session 3 initialisation failed BSOD. The second time and third time and so on and so forth I got bad system config info, which turned my computer into a reboot loop. Second question, why would this happen?
My experience similar to this unlucky fellow : Win 8 BSOD : BAD_SYSTEM_CONFIG_INFO (Details available)SOS
so I followed the guide in the thread and tried to recreate my BCD. I successfully got into the advanced setup options ( I think it is called this ?) by pressing shift +f8.
However I still failed as I was locked there. Every option including opening the command prompt is blocked because it said that operating these options needed administrative rights which I have in my hands. However the ASO said that it can't find any administrative accounts in my computer. Third question , why would this happen?
So now my computer fell into another loop. Whenever I started my computer it went into the ASO and wouldn't get away from it. And can't even see the lovely face in BSOD.
I am am using windows 8.1 in amd fx 8150 and 8 gb ram, computer was somehow normal with occasional freezing ( 1-2 times a month ).
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Mar 5, 2013
Some time ago Installed Windows 7 on one of my Windows 8 computers. But during the install i had to delete all partitions and that was the recovery partition that had he recovery software on it. Well now I want to go back to Windows 8 and I don't really want to send my PC to Samsung for re imaging. But I have the image i made with the software before I installed Windows 8. All I need is to get the recover partition back with the software on it. I have 2 other Samsung computers that have the same software on it but I need to find a way to make a image of the recover partition so i can use my backup image for the computer.
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Nov 2, 2012
So when I was using Windows Vista I used Acronis True Image, when windows 7 came along I use macrium reflect, now I am using windows 8.
don't know what to try or use this time. I have three hard drives one for my OS, one for media+installation of programs and lastly one for backups. I want to make a system image in case something goes wrong save me the hassle of reinstalling and downloading again?
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Sep 16, 2013
have our friends computer all set up and ready to go.One of the things that came about during this process is, I learned that you can make a real disk image in Windows 8 without using a third party software program.
Something I didn't think was possible, and you don't have to jump through hoops to do it.
As "Badrobot", pointed out to me.
There is a utility in the Windows Control Panel named Windows 7 File Recovery, (the strange name is probably why I never figure out what it does) It is really the Disk Image utility from Windows 7 and will make a Disk Image of the C: drive on your Windows 8 computer, and has nothing to do with recovering Windows 7 files, as far as I can see.
Why they didn't include this option in Windows 8 Recovery is a mystery.
Anyway the utility is really easy to use, makes a backup very quickly, and also creates a Windows Boot disk that will take you to the recovery interface if your computer won't boot or go to the Recovery Screen.
I haven't actually checked but it says that the option to restore you computer from a Disk Image will now, be available when you open the System Restore Windows along with the Refresh, and Restore options.
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On the laptop I'm setting up, I created a new partition just big enough to hold the image and placed it there. On my computer I placed it on a different physical drive so that it will work even if my hard drive dies.
So I have to admit that I complained about Windows 8 not having this capability in error, but I still say that it's Microsoft's fault for hiding it in a location that I never expected to find it, under a name that makes no sense at all.
As long as I'm complaining again, I want to ask, "Why can't you type in "Disk Manager" in the search on the Metro screen and find "Disk Manager".
Half of the problem with Windows 8 is that they changed the name on things that have been the same for years.
Anyway both computers now have Windows 8 generated Disk Images and I feel better. LOL
I still have my third party image as well. BSTS
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May 2, 2014
Its my first time to create my first system image in my windows 8. Can I exclude a certain file if not how many blank cd's do I need I got 146GB used currently in my C drive and while creating a system image could it take the process an hour or more?
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Apr 24, 2013
I'm attempting to follow the instructions here, to do a system image of my Dell Windows 8 machine:
Using Windows 8′s “hidden” backup to clone and recover your whole PC | Ars Technica
As I go through the wizard, I arrive at this screen:
I don't have the option to deselect any of these "drives". I proceed with the backup - it chugs along, and then consistently fails here:
"One of the critical volumes is not having enough free space." It doesn't tell me which - but, it's certainly not the OS drive, this is a virgin system.
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Jun 26, 2014
I own an OEM Machine which is from Acer.
To ask what is probably well known amongst IT pro's; does a system image backup solution (and consequently a restore from that image if needs be) work on OEM PC's, like a desktop from Acer, actually work without problems, and would I get a proper bootable and working machine after restoration.
Brief scenario - I have used Acronis TI 2014 (Or even the Windows 8.1 system image utility) to create an image of my C: Drive/EFI Partition/Recovery Partition - and backed it up to an external USB HDD.
My OS crashes for whatever reason and I can't boot.
I then either use my Acronis bootable media CD (which I've tested and boots despite all the secure boot/UEFI/GPT mania going about users like myself) to reinstall the Acronis disk image.
OR I use a Widnows 8.1 bootable disk with the ISO (which I've tested to boot) to reinstall the Windows created system image. (I could also use the recovery drive I created in Win 8.1, which just to add, however irrelvanat it might be, includes my OEM factory default partition which was copied as part of the recovery flash drive creation)
Would either of those restore solutions give me a reasonably likely working PC again - taking into account all the stuff I don't understand like the Windows 8.1 OEM key being on the motherboard (which I would understand in terms of Windows activation and authentication could have a negative impact on restoring images over an OEM installed OS and it's partitions)....
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Aug 22, 2013
I have read a lot about windows 8 (and 8.1) and how to make a system image for it.
Well the most people used the 7 file recovery tool in windows 8 to make full system images. But in windows 8.1 it's gone.
Like in this thread: System Image - Create in Windows 8
Now I hear and see everyone making system images with a powershell command.. How to Create and Restore System Image Backups on Windows 8.1
But why doesn't anybody just use the windows 8 (and 8.1) backup function wich also includes a feature called:
include a system image of drives:
It seems to me that if you do this at an clean install it's a lot easier then powershell? (and maybe you can uncheck the backup of files and only include a sytem image?)
I know that at this moment I can still make a 7 file recovery tool image and restore it with windows 8(.1) repair/recovery disc.
But I wan't to know this for the future when I have a system with 8.1 from factory.. (some manufacturers like asus don't provide repair/system restore discs or utils anymore....)
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Mar 28, 2014
I made a system image from Windows 8.1 using Windows' own system image feature. I seem to be unable to restore it. I booted with the Windows 8 disc, and told it to restore from a system image. It found the image, ran a few minutes, then failed because of version mismatch (?). Not before hosing the entire system, by the way. Luckily, I was well backed up.
I booted with the Windows 7 disc, and it didn't even see the system image (on my external HD). It saw my Windows 7 system image and restored it just fine, and here I am.
Anyway, is there some trick to restoring a Windows 8.1 system image? I am not running Windows 8.1, so I can't generate a repair disk that way. Is there one available online somewhere for download?
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Mar 28, 2013
I plan to get a ssd drive and run only windows with few other most useful software on it.
I transfer only windows 8 system with system settings. can I make a image of windows system only, not whole hard drive? and how to backup activation. the windows 8 I have is a upgrade license I brought from Microsoft upgraded my existing windows 7.
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Apr 2, 2013
I have been trying to a system image (Windows 8) and keeps telling me to insert a blank disk and mark it, Computer Name, Date and Disk #. It keeps telling me to install one and mark it #1 every time the current disk (DVD) is full, also the status bar does not show any advancement in the process. The other 2 machines I have and did a system image on asks you to insert a disk with the numbers going in sequence, 1, 2, 3 etc.
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Jan 17, 2013
When I selected "windows file recovery" from the control panel and tried to create a system image, I received the error msg "0x81000033"
"not enough space on target drive to create image", but that was not true... the target disk had 1.2TB empty space...
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Aug 17, 2013
I need creating a recovery image of my system. I would like to create an image recovery drive with just the barebones needed for Windows 8 to run. I all ready have a recovery partition created. I just don't know how to create a recovery image for usage whenever something happens to the system.
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Jun 25, 2013
I have spent most of the past 12 hours trying to restore my win8pro system from a system image. the image was saved to a usb hard drive. win8pro system image recovery won't see the usb hard drive. I tried copying the backup to a drive on my network, but recovery won't see that either, even when entering the exact path to the backup using the network option. I then tried to copy the backup to a second hard drive, installing that hard drive directly into the machine. no go, wouldn't even recognize the drive.
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Mar 10, 2013
I'm having a problem with Windows System Image Backup just when I try to do a image backup it will say that it has failed and suggest to do a disk check. I've searched and some users say to use third party backup programs should I run the disk check first or just go with a different backup tool.
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Mar 28, 2014
I bought a new laptop with a Windows 8 Pro x64 pre-installed on it.
Then I upgraded my OS to Windows 8.1 Pro from Windows Store.
After that I thought I'd create a backup of my system so I don't have to re-download the Windows 8.1 upgrade and at the same time having the option to reset my laptop to it's old operating system in case I want to, so that being said, I created a system image backup using Windows' Imaging Utility and pointed it my external drive. It took a couple of minutes and the image was successfully created.
I double checked the image file and I can see it on my external drive saved in a folder called 'WindowsImageBackup'. The backup files is approximately around 35 GB.
I also tried using the System Image Recovery option from BIOS to check whether the backup file I created really works, and it did because it was recognized by the system through the dialog box "Re-image your computer".
My mind was set that if anything bad happens to may laptop, whether if it got infected with a virus or the operating system crashed or even if the hard disk gets broken I could simply put it back to it's previous state using the backup image I created. So I played with the partitioning of my laptop, I even installed other operating systems for educational purposes, but when I finally wanted to bring my laptop to its previous state I failed...
The System Image Recovery from BIOS that once recognized my backup image throw an error at me saying the 'Windows cannot find a system image on this computer'. How can I fix this error? Is there still a way to recover my laptops previous installed OS or is it gone for good?...
1. Download bootable USB 3.0 drivers and tried to load the drivers on the during System Image Recovery. I think I got that tutorial here in this forum also but not sure, anyways it says that my external hard disk might not properly load because windows does not support usb 3.0.
2. I tried installing macrium free to re-image the vhd files from my backup image and tried to use the new image created by macrium to backup from. Re-imaging and backing up from the macrium image is successful but when I restart my laptop to check whether the backup works, I got an error saying 'Your PC needs to be repaired... Error code: 0x0000225'. I boot from my rescue disk and open up the command prompt to run a command like 'bootrec /scanos' but the result says detected windows installation is zero (0)...
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Jul 30, 2013
After upgrading to the Win 8.1 upgrade I can no longer find the full backup selection and clicking on the change backup settings only shows a little clock. Has the backup function been removed from win 8.1?
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Jun 30, 2013
I thought 8.1 was supposed to make things easier? Not so for creating a System Image. Now, you have to use the Windows PowerShell (Admin) to get the job done. The image below will show the command string to use (boxed in red) and my target drive is/was Z:
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You can use your installation media to access the Repair function and restore your System Image from there.
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Oct 26, 2013
After upgrading to Windows 8.1, System Image Backup failed resulting in the following message:
"The backup failed. There is not enough space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage location. - (0x80780119)"
However, there was enough free space in the external hard disk: 762.82 GB.
Windows Disk Management, and other tools, provided the following information about the partition structure of Disk 0 (238.35 GB):
Type File System Capacity Free Space Recovery NTFS 499 MB 499 MB
EFI System Partition FAT32 300 MB 300 MB Microsoft Reserved Partition Other 128 MB
Recovery (?Volume{792d...) NTFS 350 MB 350 MB Recovery (?Volume{8b75...) NTFS 350 MB 350 MB
Recovery (SAMSUNG_REC2) NTFS 19.72 GB 19.72 GB Recovery (SAMSUNG_REC) NTFS 1.00 GB 1.00 GB
Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition NTFS 216.16 GB 144.76 GB
I am suspicious about having two 350 MB recovery partitions.
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Aug 10, 2014
I recently upgraded to Windows 8.1 from the Microsoft Store. Everything went well (so far) and I want to create a system image backup.
I have a 1 TB external hard drive with plenty of space, but there are some mp3 files on it. I'd like to know if storing the disk image on this drive will affect the mp3's (i.e., are they safe?)
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